Senior Bowl

[Piper]

Palmer and Klingsbury impress.

tfy notes

 

[magnus]

sweet. Been looking for something like this.
Anything on weigh-ins?

 

[rake]

Originally posted by magnus
Anything on weigh-ins?

"Kliff Kingsbury and Chris Simms who both measured in over 6-feet and 3-inches, tipped the scale at 203 and 216 pounds respectively; especially Kingsbury who looked painfully thin. Even Carson Palmer who's been on the rubber chicken circuit since winning the Heisman Trophy last month was only 220-pounds at 6-feet four and a half inches. Possibly the most surprising measurement of the day was LaMarcus McDonald, the tough, run stuffing linebacker from TCU known for his intimidating style of hitting. Just touching the scale at 6-feet, the skinny framed McDonald weighed only 209-pounds"

 

[LarryD]

coaches all say that the senior bowl is the most importnat workout for the players. the week of practice they get will go a long way toward draft status. keep an eye on who does well here.

 

[PantherMills]

Sorry about the formatting...best I could do when I had to cut & paste...PM


North Roster


No. Pos. Name Ht. Wt. School
1 WR Bobby Wade 5-10 190 Arizona
2 DB Cato June 5-11 217 Michigan
3 WR Arnaz Battle 6-0 204Notre Dame
5 RB Larry Johnson 6-0 221Penn State
6 LB Victor Hobson 6-0 248Michigan
7 QB Kyle Boller 6-2 221California
8 DB DeJuan Groce 5-9 189Nebraska
9 LB Clifton Smith 6-1 251Syracuse
10 QB Seneca Wallace 5-11 190Iowa State
11 WR Tyrone Calico 6-3 219MTSU
14 DB Antwoine Sanders 6-1 194 Utah
15 QB Dave Ragone 6-3 246Louisville
16 KP Brooks Barnard 6-2 188Maryland
22 RB Artose Pinner 5-9 229Kentucky
23 DB Bryan Scott 6-0 214Penn State
24 WR Bryant Johnson 6-2 208Penn State
25 WR Terrence Holt 6-1 202NC State
27 LB Lance Briggs 6-0 247Arizona
28 DB Eugene Wilson 5-10 189Illinois
32 RB Cecil Sapp 5-10 226Colorado St.
35 RB Ovie Mughelli 6-0 255Wake Forest
41 DB Shane Walton 5-10 187Notre Dame
42 LB Matt Wilhelm 6-3 237Ohio State
44 RB Casey Moore 6-1 250Stanford
45 DB Marcus Trufant 5-11 186Washington St.
51 LB Gerald Hayes 6-0 231Pittsburgh
55 LB Angelo Crowell 6-0 230Virginia
56 OL Eric Steinbach 6-6 292Iowa
57 DL Chris Kelsay 6-4 270Nebraska
58 DL Kevin Williams 6-4 301Oklahoma St.
59 OL Anthony Davis 6-4 316Virginia Tech
64 OL Ben Johnson 6-6 334Wisconsin
69 OL Seth Wand 6-6 315NW Missouri
72 OL Al Johnson 6-4 293Wisconsin
73 OL Bruce Nelson 6-5 289Iowa
75 OL Steve Sciullo 6-4 328Marshall
78 OL Dan Koppen 6-2 288Boston College
79 OL Tony Pashos 6-6 339Illinois
81 DL Michael Haynes 6-3 274Penn State
82 WR Kevin Curtis 5-11 187Utah State
83 TE Ben Joppru 6-4 259Michigan
85 TE L.J. Smith 6-3 249Rutgers
86 DL Tyler Brayton 6-6 269Colorado
93 DL Calvin Pace 6-3 253Wake Forest
94 DL Colin Cole 6-1 315 Iowa
97 DL Kenny Peterson 6-2 293Ohio State
98 DL Anthony Adams 5-11 290Penn State
99 DL Terrence Martin 6-2 290NC State

Coaching staff: Houston Texans (Dom Capers)


South Roster


No. Pos. Name Ht. Wt. School
1 DB Kevin Garrett 5-9 190 SMU
2 QB Chris Simms 6-4 216Texas
3 QB Carson Palmer 6-4 220 USC
5 RB Earnest Graham 5-9 217Florida
6 WR Taylor Jacobs 6-0 201Florida
8 WR Terrence Edwards 5-11 163Georgia
10 LB Pisa Tinoisamoa 6-0 222Hawaii
11 LB Bradie James 6-2 240LSU
12 QB Kliff Kingsbury 6-3 203Texas Tech
14 DB Julian Battle 6-2 199Tennessee
16 DB Rashean Mathis 6-4190Bethune-Cookman
17 DB Andrew Woolfolk 6-1 193Oklahoma
18 TE Mike Seidman 6-4 268UCLA
20 KP Damon Duval 5-11 195Auburn
21 WR Talman Gardner 6-0 199Florida State
22 DB Sammy Davis 5-11 183Texas A&M
25 RB Justin Fargas 6-0 207 USC
26 DB Todd Johnson 6-0 197Florida
27 WR Doug Gabriel 6-2 203 UCF
28 DB Drayton Florence 6-0 194Tuskegee
31 RB Domanick Davis 5-9 213 LSU
33 RB Justin Griffith 5-11 229Mississippi St.
43 DB Chris Brown 6-0 190 UAB
44 LB LaMarcus McDonald 6-0 209 TCU
45 RB Malaefou MacKenzie 5-10 223 USC
51 DL Jamaal Green 6-2 265 Miami
52 LB Mark Brown 6-0 228Auburn
53 OL Ben Claxton 6-2 293Ole Miss
54 DL Kindal Moorehead 6-2 288Alabama
55 DL Kenny King 6-2 278Alabama
56 OL Ben Nowland 6-2 293Auburn
58 DL Rashad Moore 6-3 322Tennessee
59 LB Mike Nattiel 5-11 225Florida
61 OL Montrae Holland 6-1 331Florida State
65 OL Vince Manuwai 6-2 303Hawaii
71 OL George Foster 6-5 333Georgia
72 OL Brett Williams 6-5 320Florida St.
73 OL Jeremy Bridges 6-4 294Southern Miss
76 OL Torrin Tucker 6-5 323Southern Miss
78 OL Jon Stinchcomb 6-5 288Georgia
82 TE Aaron Walker 6-5 253Florida
88 WR Sam Aiken 6-1 202N. Carolina
94 DL Ty Warren 6-5 298Texas A&M
95 DL Jerome McDougal 6-1 264 Miami
96 DL Jarret Johnson 6-3 286Alabama
97 DL Nick Eason 6-3 295Clemson
98 LB Mario Haggan 6-2 252Mississippi St.
99 DL Andrew Williams 6-2 262 Miami

Coaching staff: Detroit Lions (Marty Mornhinweg)

 

[magnus]

thanks, PM, that was helpful. Rake, that wasn't.

 

[LarryD]

side note: avoid talman gardner at all costs.

 

[Xcaliber]

Here's ESPN notes for Monday.

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MOBILE, Ala. -- Here's what the scouts are saying after watching Monday's practices for the 2003 Senior Bowl:

South practice -- Jan. 13
With QBs Carson Palmer, Chris Simms and Kliff Kingsbury on the South roster, the UMS football facility was lined with NFL scouts who were treated to great performances by Palmer, Florida WR Taylor Jacobs and USC RB Justin Fargas.

Palmer, the Heisman winner from USC, was impressive. He looked fluid in the pocket and put nice zip on the ball. Palmer's delivery is smooth, almost effortless. He also exhibited the confidence necessary at the NFL level. Palmer started his Senior Bowl week in a perfect manner -- and the personnel people don't expect any drop-off.

As for the other highly-regarded South QBs, it was some good, some bad. Simms, the Texas QB, showed terrific arm strength. The kid's got a cannon. His footwork was solid and he threw a tight spiral, but his delivery tends to include a little too much sidearm motion. Simms needs to work on his accuracy and anticipation during the week. The questions for Texas Tech QB Kingsbury revolve around his arm strength. He connected on a couple of nice deep routes, but needs to work on his velocity and elongated throwing motion. After spending much of his career in the shotgun, Kingsbury has trouble "riding the center." He needs work on the center exchange.

Fargas took the spotlight at running back. He was explosive through the hole today and showed good speed. He also exhibited adequate hands in pass routes. Keep an eye on him this week.

The other star of the South practice was Florida's Jacobs. The former Gator flat out caught everything. Jacobs also displayed good speed and quickness.

Other observations: Southern Miss offensive lineman Jeremy Bridges grabbed the attention of scouts. At 6-foot-4, 290 pounds, he proved to be a terrific athlete and stood out on the line. Georgia OL Jon Stinchcomb played a little light today and needs to prove he can anchor a line. His teammate, WR Terrence Edwards, exhibited good quickness but needs to work on his strength. UCLA tight end Mike Seidman needs to work on his quickness. Proving he can block would help his stock immensely. The Miami defensive linemen, Jerome McDougle and Andrew Williams, were much shorter than expected.


For more information on the 2003 Senior Bowl, go to the official site.

 

[Xcaliber]

ESPN's notes for Tuesday's practice.

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MOBILE, Ala. -- Here's what the scouts are saying after watching Tuesday's practices for the 2003 Senior Bowl:

North squad -- Jan. 14
Much like with the South team yesterday, scouts paid special attention to the quarterbacks at Tuesday morning's North practice. Louisville's Dave Ragone and Cal's Kyle Boller both showed off a strong arm. The Senior Bowl week will be very important to Ragone. If he performs well, he can elevate his draft status after a season competing with limited talent around him. Iowa State's Seneca Wallace had good accuracy and quick feet, but is small in stature. The Cyclone QB ran some routes with the wide receivers. Last year, Antwaan Randle El starred as a college QB before converting to WR, but Wallace is a much better passer than Randle El.

Penn State RB and Heisman finalist Larry Johnson is a back built for power, not speed. Johnson didn't exhibit a lot of explosiveness to the hole, but did break some tackles. A one-back offense would suit his talents.

The receivers on the North squad had a good morning. Utah State's Kevin Curtis showed good speed and quicks. He also caught the ball well. Curtis needs to work on his strength as he struggled vs. press defense. Notre Dame's Arnaz Battle ran nice routs and exhibited good speed. Penn State's Bryant Johnson was smooth, fast and ran fluid routes. His ability as a return man will help him. Arizona's Bobby Wade showed speed, quicks and elusiveness. Middle Tennessee State's Tyrone Calico is a tall, long-strider with build-up speed. He needs room to get going and will have to work on getting into and out of his breaks. He also dropped a few passes this morning.

Michigan tight end Bennie Joppru caught the ball well, but needs to exhibit more physical play as a blocker. Rutgers TE L.J. Smith went home with a hamstring injury and will be replaced by Arizona State TE Mike Pinkard.

Washington State DB Marcus Trufant didn't disappoint. He showed good cover skills and solid strength. Notre Dame DB Shane Walton has great instincts and awareness. He'd be a good fit for a team that plays a lot of zone coverage.

There were three offensive line standouts this morning: Wisconsin's Ben Johnson, Illinois' Tony Pashos and Iowa's Eric Steinbach.

For more information on the 2003 Senior Bowl, go to the official site.

 

[Xcaliber]

Originally posted by Xcaliber

Penn State RB and Heisman finalist Larry Johnson is a back built for power, not speed. Johnson didn't exhibit a lot of explosiveness to the hole, but did break some tackles. A one-back offense would suit his talents.

For those that wanted us to take LJ with our first pick. I was kind of undecided about him for a while but a power back with little or no explosiveness is not someone I want to spend a 1st round pick on.