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Looks like another reach, but at least they got a S. Now we can check that off and look for players with some upside possibilities.

TFY:

Full Name: Nate Salley School: Ohio State Pos: S

Ht: 6-1.5 Wt: 216 40: 4.69 Year: 4Sr

Bio: Three-year starter and an All-Conference pick as a senior after 43/1/6. Junior numbers included a career-high 55 tackles.

Pos: Physical, run-defending safety who is best in the box. Strong at the point and brings ball carriers down on initial contact. Moves well laterally, works well with cornerbacks and is effective facing the action. Has a solid burst of closing speed and goes for the knockout blow.

Neg: Marginal ball skills in coverage. Usually a half-step late arriving on the scene. Does not play with a great sense of urgency.

Analysis: Better up the field in a straight line, Salley looks like a traditional strong safety best suited in a limited area.
 
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Has excellent size and a solid frame...Tough and physical...A big hitter who can deliver the knockout blow...Feisty and plays with an attitude...Hard worker and a team leader...Very smart...Experienced and is a three-year starter in the Big 10.

Weaknesses:
Can be too aggressive at times...Will miss a lot of tackles while going for the big hit...Lacks elite timed speed...Does not have great range and really struggles in coverage...Has poor ball skills...Might only be a situational guy at the next level.

Notes:
More of an in-the-box / run support safety...Doesn't have all the physical tools you look for but his intangibles help make up for it...Might never be an every down performer but could excel in a run stopping role and on special teams.
 
Dave Te: Note the fastere 40 time at the Pro Day, but Ohio State has a notoriously fast track.

<<Dave Te:

Name: Nate Salley
College: Ohio State Number: 21
Height: 6-2 Weight: 216
Position: FS Pos2:
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2006
40 Time: 4.63
Projected Round: 5 Stock:
Rated number 10 out of 92 FS's 197 / 1735 TOTAL

Combine Results Pro Day Results
Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 6016
Weight: 216
40 Yrd Dash: 4.63
20 Yrd Dash: 2.69
10 Yrd Dash: 1.59
Wonderlic:
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 40
Broad Jump: 10'3"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.17
3-Cone Drill: 6.80

Dates: 03/09/06
Height: 6016
Weight: 216
40 Yrd Dash: 4.53

Overview

Salley has been a model of consistency in the Buckeyes' secondary for the past three years. The hard-hitting free safety plays with great emotion and is regarded by the OSU staff as a coach on the field. He takes great pride in his leadership role, as he guided a young and inexperienced defensive backfield that helped the team rank fifth nationally in total defense in 2005, allowing only 281.33 yards per game. He got a chance to display his versatility and athletic talent when he also joined the Buckeyes' basketball team after his freshman year.

In 49 games at Ohio State, Salley started his final 33 contests. He finished with 181 tackles (100 solos), 2.5 stops for losses of 9 yards and a forced fumble. Salley blocked a kick, picked off three passes and delivered fifteen pass deflections.

Analysis

Positives: A tall, athletic frame with good upper body muscle tone, tight waist, good bubble and long legs...Effective Cover-2 deep zone type of player who might be better suited for weak-side linebacker at the next level to compensate for a lack of speed...More quick than fast, showing a good understanding for taking proper angles to close on the ball efficiently...Has keen field instincts, knowing all of his teammates' assignments and is quick to react when he sees the play develop...Has a smooth stride in his backpedal...Can generate good lower body power when attacking ballcarriers...Shows soft, natural hands and good extension to catch and pluck the ball away from his frame...Has the size to take on fullbacks in run support and is efficient using his hands to reroute tight ends at the line of scrimmage.

Negatives: Looks sluggish and lacks the burst and explosion out of his breaks to mirror receivers in their routes...His long limbs make him struggle to open his hips in attempts to get in and out of his breaks...Best when playing deep in the zone, so he can attack the ball in front of him, as he does not have the second gear to recover when beaten...Has good field awareness, but lacks production, especially in run force (2.5 stops for losses in 49 games)...Needs to do a better job of timing his leaps in jump ball opportunities (has good vertical jump ability, but needs to know when and how to use it)...Ducks his head at times trying to make the tackle and, despite decent power, he fails to generate pop on contact... Does not have the change of direction agility to smoothly flow to the ball...Lacks the timed speed to stay with receivers unless it is on underneath routes.

Salley is a consistent performer with good field smarts and plays with good effort. He reminds me a lot of the Colts' Cato June, and like the former Michigan safety Salley will probably be better utilized as a weak-side linebacker in a Cover-2 scheme to compensate for his lack of speed and acceleration.

Salley has good field awareness and it is rare to see him caught out of position, but he must compensate for his speed problems by playing so deep in the zone that he is often late to recover and get back in the action. He is a marginal performer vs. the run, as he does not have the lateral range to string plays out and fails to deliver a good hand punch to shock blockers when operating along the line.

Salley is a poor blitzer who gets sandwiched between blockers and does not have the power or hand activity to shed. When he has the ballcarrier trapped in tight quarters, he can lead with his shoulder and rock the runner back, but in the open field he lacks timing and misses too many hits.

He needs to show more aggression in his play. While he gives good effort, at times it appears as though he is going through the motions and fails to finish the play. Athletically, he has the size and muscle development you look for in a strong safety, but is not consistent enough as a tackler to play in the box. He lacks the foot speed to roam the field as a free safety, which leads him to possibly moving to weak-side linebacker. He will need to bulk up for a possible position change, though. Right now, his special teams play might win him a late roster spot, but his lack of productivity is a red flag.
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OVERVIEW
Salley has been a model of consistency in the Buckeyes' secondary for the past three years. The hard-hitting free safety plays with great emotion and is regarded by the OSU staff as a coach on the field. He takes great pride in his leadership role, as he guided a young and inexperienced defensive backfield that helped the team rank fifth nationally in total defense in 2005, allowing only 281.33 yards per game. He got a chance to display his versatility and athletic talent when he also joined the Buckeyes' basketball team after his freshman year.

Salley helped lead St. Thomas Aquinas High School to a 14-1 record and a berth in the Class 5A state championship game as a senior. He finished the 2001 season with 76 tackles, including four stops behind the line of scrimmage. He blocked eight kicks during his career while alternating between cornerback and safety during his three years as a starter.

Salley also played basketball and was a starter as a junior when Aquinas won the state championship (he was named to the all-tournament team). He competed in track in the spring and advanced to the state finals as a sprinter.

As a true freshman at Ohio State in 2002, Salley appeared in every game. He played mostly on special teams and was listed second on the depth chart at field cornerback, logging 34 minutes of action while producing six tackles (3 solos). He started the last eleven games of the 2003 season, taking over for Donnie Nickey at free safety. He finished fourth on the team with 77 tackles (44 solos) and a stop for a loss. Salley also batted away five passes.

His consistency in the secondary earned Salley second-team All-Big Ten Conference honors as a junior. Salley missed the Michigan State and Purdue contests with a left shoulder injury and was sorely missed. He still managed to rank sixth on the squad with 55 tackles (26 solos), intercepted two passes and deflected four others.

Salley continued to elevate his performance throughout his senior season, earning All-Big Ten first-team accolades. He registered 43 tackles (27 solos) with 1.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage and caused a fumble. Salley also had six pass breakups, an interception and a blocked kick.

In 49 games at Ohio State, Salley started his final 33 contests. He finished with 181 tackles (100 solos), 2.5 stops for losses of 9 yards and a forced fumble. Salley blocked a kick, picked off three passes and delivered fifteen pass deflections.

ANALYSIS

Positives: A tall, athletic frame with good upper body muscle tone, tight waist, good bubble and long legs...Effective Cover-2 deep zone type of player who might be better suited for weak-side linebacker at the next level to compensate for a lack of speed...More quick than fast, showing a good understanding for taking proper angles to close on the ball efficiently...Has keen field instincts, knowing all of his teammates' assignments and is quick to react when he sees the play develop...Has a smooth stride in his backpedal...Can generate good lower body power when attacking ballcarriers...Shows soft, natural hands and good extension to catch and pluck the ball away from his frame...Has the size to take on fullbacks in run support and is efficient using his hands to reroute tight ends at the line of scrimmage.

Negatives: Looks sluggish and lacks the burst and explosion out of his breaks to mirror receivers in their routes...His long limbs make him struggle to open his hips in attempts to get in and out of his breaks...Best when playing deep in the zone, so he can attack the ball in front of him, as he does not have the second gear to recover when beaten...Has good field awareness, but lacks production, especially in run force (2.5 stops for losses in 49 games)...Needs to do a better job of timing his leaps in jump ball opportunities (has good vertical jump ability, but needs to know when and how to use it)...Ducks his head at times trying to make the tackle and, despite decent power, he fails to generate pop on contact... Does not have the change of direction agility to smoothly flow to the ball...Lacks the timed speed to stay with receivers unless it is on underneath routes.

Salley is a consistent performer with good field smarts and plays with good effort. He reminds me a lot of the Colts' Cato June, and like the former Michigan safety Salley will probably be better utilized as a weak-side linebacker in a Cover-2 scheme to compensate for his lack of speed and acceleration.

Salley has good field awareness and it is rare to see him caught out of position, but he must compensate for his speed problems by playing so deep in the zone that he is often late to recover and get back in the action. He is a marginal performer vs. the run, as he does not have the lateral range to string plays out and fails to deliver a good hand punch to shock blockers when operating along the line.

Salley is a poor blitzer who gets sandwiched between blockers and does not have the power or hand activity to shed. When he has the ballcarrier trapped in tight quarters, he can lead with his shoulder and rock the runner back, but in the open field he lacks timing and misses too many hits.

He needs to show more aggression in his play. While he gives good effort, at times it appears as though he is going through the motions and fails to finish the play. Athletically, he has the size and muscle development you look for in a strong safety, but is not consistent enough as a tackler to play in the box. He lacks the foot speed to roam the field as a free safety, which leads him to possibly moving to weak-side linebacker. He will need to bulk up for a possible position change, though. Right now, his special teams play might win him a late roster spot, but his lack of productivity is a red flag.

INJURY REPORT

2004: Sat out the Michigan State and Purdue games after suffering a left shoulder stinger vs. Penn State (10/30).

CAREER NOTES

Started his final 33 games for the Buckeyes...Came into the program as a cornerback, moving to free safety as a sophomore...Also appeared in ten games with the Buckeyes' basketball team, joining the squad after the 2003 Fiesta Bowl.

AGILITY TESTS

Combine: 4.67 in the 40-yard dash...2.71 20-yard dash...1.6 10-yard dash...Bench presses 225 pounds 14 times...40-inch vertical jump...10'3" broad jump...4.15 20-yard shuttle...11.28 60-yard shuttle...6.78 three-cone drill...32-inch arm length...8 3/4-inch hands...Right-handed...17/28 Wonderlic score.

HIGH SCHOOL

Attended St. Thomas Aquinas (Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.) High School, playing football for head coach George Smith...Helped lead the team to a glittering 14-1 record and a berth in the Class 5A state championship game as a senior...Finished the 2001 season with 76 tackles, including four stops behind the line of scrimmage...Blocked eight kicks during his career while alternating between cornerback and safety during his three years as a starter...Also played basketball and was a starter as a junior when Aquinas won the state championship (he was named to the all-tournament team)...Competed in track in the spring and advanced to the state finals as a sprinter.

PERSONAL

Business major...Son of Pat and Nate Salley, Sr...Born 2/05/84...Resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
 
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Strengths:
Has excellent size and a solid frame...Tough and physical...A big hitter who can deliver the knockout blow...Feisty and plays with an attitude...Hard worker and a team leader...Very smart...Experienced and is a three-year starter in the Big 10.

Weaknesses:
Can be too aggressive at times...Will miss a lot of tackles while going for the big hit...Lacks elite timed speed...Does not have great range and really struggles in coverage...Has poor ball skills...Might only be a situational guy at the next level.

Notes:
More of an in-the-box / run support safety...Doesn't have all the physical tools you look for but his intangibles help make up for it...Might never be an every down performer but could excel in a run stopping role and on special teams.
 
McShay:

McShay:

Strengths: Possesses good overall size. Shows good instincts and recognition skills. Diagnoses plays quickly and won't take many false steps. He understands angles and does a good job of protecting himself deep. He has just decent top-end speed but shows adequate range in deep-zone coverage. If he times it up well he can be an explosive tackler with great power from his hips and upper body. He will lead with his shoulder and drive through ball carriers. He also shows the ability to separate the receiver from the ball if he gets a clean hit.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal speed and athletic ability for a centerfielder-type. Gets away with it in college but his lack of speed and somewhat stiff hips will lead to many more limitations in the NFL. He's not as aggressive as he could be in run support and he misses too many open field tackles. He does not show smooth COD skills or the fluidity to match up man-to-man vs. slot WR's. He lacks the stop-and-start skills and the top-end speed to recover if he makes a mistake. Does not show great ball skills and is not a huge playmaker in coverage.

Overall: Salley has been a fulltime starter since his sophomore season in 2003. He missed two games after a shoulder injury he suffered versus Indiana as a junior in 2004, but he finished with 55 tackles, two interceptions and four broken up passes in 10 games started. Salley started all 12 games as a senior in 2005 and finished with 43 tackles, 1.5 TFL, six passes broken up and one interception. Salley is a free safety prospect that looks more like a strong safety. He showed adequate range in deep zone coverage at the collegiate level because he diagnoses plays quickly, takes solid angles and has enough speed to reach the sideline on time. However, he does not have the speed or athletic ability to consistently match up as a centerfielder-type FS in the NFL. Furthermore, while he flashes explosive power in run support from the high-point, Salley does not show the aggressiveness or consistency tackling in space to develop into an in-the-box type of SS in the NFL. As a result, Salley was a very productive college football player who comes up short in terms of his potential to match up in the NFL. He is worth drafting in the last couple of rounds as a decent reserve in the cover 2 and contributor on special teams.
 
Robert Davis

Nate Salley has been a mainstay in the Buckeye secondary since his sophomore season. He spent time as a corner early on, but once he settled in at free safety in 2003, he became one of the biggest hitters in the Big 10. As a sophomore, he finished the season with a career high 77 tackles. As a junior he earned All Big 10 2nd team honors after racking up 55 tackles in the secondary. This past season, he only had 43 tackles, but was good enough to earn All Big 10 1st team honors.

Salley may be one of the most physically gifted safeties in this draft. He has excellent size, is a good athlete, and displays good speed on the football field. His name has been made by the number of big hits he has delivered during his Buckeye career. He can absolutely come up and lay the wood on opponents. Salley is such a good athlete, that he played basketball early on at Ohio St.

For all his talent, he has never made enough plays to warrant the hype he has gotten. He has the ability to be a dominator in coverage and in the running game with his combination of size, speed, and strength. Instead he's been beaten deep in coverage, bites on fakes, and has missed quite a few tackles.

Despite all his experience, Salley needs more work at the next level. His mindset has been to knock the snot out of players, but in the process he'll give up plays in coverage, and miss on tackles while trying to make the big hit. Nevertheless, he has the ability to really fly up the boards with good workouts. In a very deep safety class, Salley will not likely hear his name called on Day 1. He has the talent to develop into a player, but he is a work in progress.


As far as his 40 time, I've seen two sources quote 4.5 and 4.56, and others go as high as 4.67. Who knows.

OK, KFFL just screwed up the report, it was a 4.67. OK
 
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Thanks guys. I won't post the NFLDraftCountDown or the Dave Te (also Fox Sports) next time. I forgot it was available over there. Who is Robert Davis? That certainly sounds like a more positive report than wee saw elsewhere.
 
magnus said:
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Has excellent size and a solid frame...Tough and physical...A big hitter who can deliver the knockout blow...Feisty and plays with an attitude...Hard worker and a team leader...Very smart...Experienced and is a three-year starter in the Big 10.

OK.. that makes this a good pick for me. Sounds like Minter coming out of Nebraska last century :)
 
Salley is a Buckeye, so naturally I've seen him plenty. Coverage issues from time to time, but physical and a good hitter.

Essentially, we just drafted Marlon McCree.

(I'm good with the pick)
 

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