NHL vs. NBA Playoffs

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This guy:

1. Is definitely not a hockey fan
2. Has never watched a playoff hockey game
3. Cannot follow a puck, has lost interest since FoxTrack left the NHL

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NBA action, it's fantastic!
By Eric Neel
Page 2 columnist


My editor KJ calls and says, "Can you make the case for why the NBA playoffs are better than the NHL playoffs?"


And I say, "What, you mean beyond No Ice?"



MJ wouldn't be MJ without his heroics in the NBA playoffs.


"Funny," he says.


"I'm serious. They play hockey on ice. You knew that, right? All kinds of slipping and sliding."


"Hilarious."


"Plus, it's cold. I mean they use real ice and everything."


"You've got the assignment, smart guy. Get to work."


All right, beyond No Ice, and in no particular order, 21 reasons this year's NBA playoffs have it over the NHL postseason:


1. Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Jason Kidd, Chris Webber, Allen Iverson, Paul Pierce … a little thing we like to call Star Power, baby.


2. No goalies. Like No Ice, a real boost to scoring. And, our brief crush on USA soccer notwithstanding, folks love scoring. (How else to explain an otherwise absurdly widespread cultural love affair with the Fonz for all those years?)


NHL vs. NBA
Eric Neel will take this year's NBA playoffs, where the action is fantastic. But Jim Armstrong prefers the NHL playoffs, with its upsets and unpredictability -- hey, didn't the Mighty Ducks just pull off a shocking sweep of the defending champs?

Vote: Pucks vs. Hoops


3. Spacing. Not the kind that creates passing lanes and isos -- though it's true, a little breathing room, a little everything-in-the-right-place flow is a beautiful thing on both a Radiohead record and a basketball floor -- but the kind between games. You hear all the time this time of year that the series take too long, that there's too much time from one tip to the next, and that we're nothing but pawns in a game of milk-the-market, just puppets made to dance at the end of corporate sponsors' strings. I'm not hearing it (except that advertisers-rule-the-world part, which is more or less true, sure, but, you know, what are we gonna do? Not watch? Yeah, right). I'm saying the days off between games are a good thing.


Why? 1. As a fan, you see more hoops; few double-ups on the TV schedule. 2. Players are rested, which means high-level play. 3. Sweet play lingers and grows more delicious in your mind. 4. Controversy and conflict festers and intensifies in your mind, making each game not just a game but a battle between the forces of good (your guys) and evil (the sorry bastards wearing the wrong unis who must go down). 5. There's time in between games to live your life: take out the trash, eat a little something, snuggle-up with a loved one, read a newspaper, vote in a school board election, whatever. 6. (And this one is crucial.) There's time to go out back and play in the driveway, re-enacting great plays from the game you just saw. If you didn't spend a good solid hour being Robert Horry popping the 3 at the end of Game 4 of the Western Finals last year, I don't even want to know you. And if you're old enough to have seen it and you didn't lose a full day (at minimum) trying to copy Dr. J's behind-the-board, it's-a-bird-it's-a-plane layup in the '80 Finals, you ought to have your hoop lover's card revoked.


4. Fear and loathing. Everybody hates the Lakers. Every player outside of L.A. will lace up every night with a crazed, I-will-vanquish-my-opposer edge in his voice and look in his eye. At the same time, everybody fears the Lakers. Every player is afraid, is convinced, in his heart of hearts that, records be damned, Shaq-Fu and Kobe can't be stopped when the second season tips off. Like H.I. going head-to-head with the Loan Rider of the Apocalypse, guys got some reckoning to do. We're talking great theater, folks.


4A. If the Lakers do win this thing, we're looking at the least-likely defense of a title maybe ever.


Everyone wants to take the trophy from these two guys.
5. No mullets.


6. The West features top-flight play in every series. It's high-quality, contrasting-style, could-go-either-way stuff. Like cutting contests between Fats Waller and Willie the Lion, like Battle of the Network Stars tug-of-wars between Team Gabe Kaplan and Team Robert Conrad, crews will be pushing each other, extending the form, and entertaining fans within an inch of their lives.


7. In the East ... well, in the East, we have the essence of opportunity; we have "every crazy kid with a dream can make a go of it"; we have eight Hickory Highs bucking for the big time. Heartwarming. Egalitarian. Unpredictable.


8. Dunks. Lots of them. Hockey's got grace, it's got toughness, and there's all kinds of creativity and strength in it. But hockey has no answer for the sheer breath-taking high-flying, death-defying, you-ain't-lying, what's-that-you-crying, joy and huzzah of the dunk. Not in the playoffs, not during the regular season, not on a frozen pond in the UP. Not nowhere.


9. Celebrity sightings. You can have Mike Myers and Kiefer Sutherland. Me, I'll take Billy Crystal, Spike, Ed Norton and Salma, and, oh yeah, Jack. (I'd be much obliged, though, if you'd take Dyan Cannon off my hands. I'm serious. I'm desperate. I'll do a straight-up deal for Celine right now.)


10. 16 of 29 teams get in. In the NHL, it's 16 of 30. Thus, a higher percentage of NBA fans get to participate in the postseason party. Science does not lie.


11. Chance of another Mariah dress.


12. Better overall talent. Across North America (and increasingly, across the world), more folks play hoops than hockey. More players means more competition at every level. More competition means higher-quality game at every level. The players you see in the NBA playoffs have had to beat back scores, scads and thousands of contenders. Their best is the best.


13. PJ vs. Scottie. The NBA's quiet genius, subtle tactician guru Zenmaster coach is going after another title. The NHL's quiet genius, subtle tactician guru Zenmaster coach is, um, at home somewhere.


14. The LeBron lottery. Even the down-time during the NBA playoffs is crucial.


15 Mark Cuban. Digital Cable service, $44.95 a month. New TV, $529. Pizza and beer, $22. Chance to watch one of the richest men in the world lose his ever-lovin' mind, pointing, strutting and shouting like Tina Turner on a 'roid binge … priceless.


16. "Here's Michael at the foul line … Bulls win!" ... that happened in the NBA playoffs. So did Magic's baby hook, Julius' up-and-under, Gar Heard's turn-and-shoot, Mr. Clutch's 60-footer against the Knicks, "And there's a steal by Bird!," Reggie's 37-points-in-eight-seconds thing, AI's duel with VC, and Willis' walk from the tunnel. You want me to go on? You don't want me to go on …


The high-comedy of Mark Cuban is worth the price of admission.
17. Personality. Pads and helmets are cool, I guess, in a Vader's Storm Troopers kind of way. But the NBA puts faces and bodies, grimaces and tats, eyes and hair and sweat and breath on display. The game has life, it's played by people, Mr. Potter, people who do most of the working and paying and living and dying in this community.


18. The Mascots dunk on trampolines and stuff. And every once in a while at halftime, they do this crazy dog race thing, and I swear, no matter how many times I see them, I can't get enough of those dogs blazing down the track and bolting through tunnels. (I think there was a minor league hockey team somewhere in New England that tried the dog thing one night, but the poor little critters kept slamming into the boards. It was dollar-beer night, so folks were entertained for a while, but it got ugly, and the yelping made a bunch of kids cry. It's my understanding that PETA's got an injunction against all dog race nights on ice now.)


19. No barriers. Cagers is just a name, and Plexiglass is just something that comes between a man and his money at an all-night check-cashing joint when he's got the munchies after a game. The game unfolds up-close, on the same plane. It feels like you can reach out and touch it.


20. Good TV. "That's terrible!" and other Waltonisms. Charles and Kenny on the TNT coverage. Plus, the best, freshest, funkiest, most eye-grabbing commercials on television. And did I mention the dunks?


21. Hoops is in us, in all of us. It's part of the fabric of North American life from Trajan's tundra to beachside courts in Florida, and every dirt drive, asphalt scrap and barn shadow in between. Hoops is everywhere. It's part of our DNA. It's common. It looks like we do -- black and white and brown and whatever other color or culture you are, rich and poor, book-smart and street-smart, inside and outside, hustling and soaring. It's where we see the mix of our lives, where guys who might not otherwise, talk to each other work like seamless, well-rehearsed ensembles. It's where folks who've known hardship find fame and fortune, and folks who've known fortune suffer hardship and loss. It's a game of heart, of our collective heart. We beat right along with it.


Eric Neel is a regular columnist for Page 2.
 
now the NHL side

armstrong

Real men wear skates
By Jim Armstrong
Special to Page 2


Something to keep in mind the next time you see Vlade Divac lying at Shaq's feet begging for a call: Real men don't flop.

They skate.


There's a reason the Stanley Cup only gets the white-glove treatment.
That's why I had to laugh when an editor from Page 2 called to ask if I could make a case for the NHL playoffs being better than the NBA playoffs. As I recall, the conversation went something like this:

P2E (Page 2 Editor): "So, you think you could come up with 10 reasons why the NHL playoffs are better?"

JA: "Sure. Well, you know, I guess so. I mean, if I thought about it long enough, I probably could give you 10 reasons why Anna's serve is better than Serena's."

P2E: "OK then. Ten reasons. Make 'em good. E-mail it by tomorrow."

JA: "Ten, huh? You really know how to put the pressure on a guy, don't you?"


Or not. As tough assignments go, this isn't exactly like taking candy from William Perry. I came up with 10 reasons, but only after paring down the list from almost 100. And that was just during my first Molson.


The NBA playoffs better than the NHL playoffs? Right. I suppose you're going to tell me it's because we never know who's going to win the NBA playoffs. Fourpeat after me, bubba: Nobody is going to beat the Lakers. Not after some rocket scientist in Sacramento scribbled an obscenity on Shaq's 20,000th-point ball.

I guess I can understand why the fan doesn't want his name out there, but he might want to give the Lakers his Social Security number. Shaq's teammates want to vote the guy a playoff share.

Of course, we thought we knew which team was going to win the Stanley Cup, too. But then along came Jean-Sebastien Giguere, who single-handedly beat the Red Wings while standing on his head and juggling chainsaws.

"We're just in shock," Red Wings tough guy Darren McCarty said in the aftermath.


Excuse me, but what's this "we" stuff? The Mighty Ducks' sweep was more like business as usual in the NHL playoffs. Fact: Since 1994, the No. 7 seed has beaten the No. 2 seed 12 out of 20 opening-round series. Yeah, like that could ever happen in the NBA, where the superstars get the calls and the chicks.


Giguere's heroics are business as usual in the NHL playoffs.
Oh, and did I mention that the Canucks, who finished second in the league to the Wings in goals scored, were outscored 14-4 by the Blues in the first four games of their series? Or that the Flyers, who scored two goals in their five-game loss to the Senators in last year's playoffs, scored three in Wednesday's triple-overtime win over the Maple Leafs?

Welcome to the NHL playoffs, the bigger and better playoffs. Here are the Top 10 reasons why:

1. The suspense factor
With the Red Wings gone, there will be a new Stanley Cup champion. But then, there usually is. Four different teams -- Detroit, Colorado, New Jersey and Dallas -- have won the past four Cups. Before the Stars' victory in 1999, it had been five years since the team with the NHL's best regular-season record went on to win the Cup. So which team will win it this year? Only your local tarot reader knows for sure. The Avs and Sens are the favorites, but any team can prove vulnerable in the NHL playoffs. Colorado was knocked out in the first round in '98, and Ottawa was eliminated in the first round three straight times before reaching the conference semis last year. Both teams lost their playoff openers this year. Nothing new there, of course. Seven of the eight higher seeds lost their openers.

2. The "goon fishing" factor
Those poor, misguided souls who don't like hockey always are quick to play the fighting card. And they've got a point -- during the regular season. Not so in the playoffs. You're more likely to see a couple of Jail Blazers teammates duke it out in practice than two NHL players drop the gloves in the postseason. Enforcers often wind up being healthy scratches, because nobody wants to be the one who went to the penalty box and cost his team a series. So what we're left with is hockey in its purest, rawest form. How entertaining is it compared to the NBA? Let's put it this way: When Kobe gets his jumper cranked up to 120 mph, like Al MacInnis' slap shot, come and talk to me.

3. The no-posse factor
Unlike their NBA brethren, NHL players don't have posses. In the NHL, people hanging around outside the locker room are called family members.


4. The pretty-boy factor
NHL players are better looking than NBA players. Say what? Hey, man, don't diss the messenger. I'm talking facts here. Didn't Anna Kournikova used to be married to Sergei Fedorov? And didn't she used to date Pavel Bure? Well, there you go. And don't even get me started on Carol Alt. With legs like hers, she'd have been perfect for an NBA player, but she chose a hockey player, Ron Greschner, then another, Alexi Yashin. OK, OK, so Cwebb has a little thing going with Tyra Banks, and Rick Fox is married to Vanessa Williams. If NBA players are better looking than NHL players, how come Steve Nash tries to look like he just scored a hat trick instead of sticking a trey? You don't see NHL players shave their heads, do you? In the NHL, bald isn't beautiful. It's just plain, old bald. And frankly, the good-looks gap would be even wider if a few more NHL players had teeth.


5. The clock-punching factor
NHL players work harder than NBA players. End of argument. What, you think I'm lying? Then you've never walked into an NHL locker room. We're talking road-kill pungent. The goalie pads alone are enough to make your eyes water.


6. The diversity factor
The NBA signs a few guys from Europe, and all of a sudden we're supposed to think the league is one, big global village. Gimme a break. You want an international flavor, take a bite out of the NHL. I mean, when's the last time two players from Sweden fought it out for the NBA scoring title on the final day of the season? And when's the last time an NBA team had a handful of players whose names ended in "ov," as the Red Wings have had for most of the past decade? Which reminds me. I know I look stupid and all, but do you really think I'm going to take the NBA in this argument and risk ticking off a guy named Igor?

7. The money can't buy you love factor
Is this a great league or what? The Rangers have the highest-paid team in the league every year and haven't made the playoffs since '97. From the sounds of things, the Sens need to win the Cup to pay the light bill. And you know what? They just might do it.

8. The OT factor
The first week of the NHL playoffs produced two double overtimes and two triple OTs. But that's nothing. Three years ago, the Penguins and Flyers went five overtimes. Tell ya what. Find me a five-OT NBA playoff game and maybe you can convince me that hardwood is cooler than ice.

9. The all for one, one for all factor
Which players lay it on the line more for their teams? NBA players get tattoos; NHL players get stitches.

10. The Cup factor
NBA players dream of getting their next shoe contracts. Not hockey players. They dream of having their names etched on the Stanley Cup, the holy grail of pro sports trophies. Quick, what's the name of the NBA's championship trophy? See what I mean?
 
wow.

basketball is my sport and right now I would much rather watch the NHL playoffs over the NBA.

Nothing beats 3rd period playoff hockey - except overtime playoff hockey.
 
The Vote...

As of 04-21-03 12:50 PM

1) Which sport's playoffs has more 'star power'?

69.5% NBA

30.5% NHL


2) Which is better?

78.8% The NHL's sudden death

21.2% A couple of NBA overtime periods


3) Which sport's playoffs has more suspense this season in terms of who will win it all?

71.6% NHL

28.4% NBA


4) What gets you more excited?

54.4% A 25-foot slap shot past the goalie

45.6% A dunk over a big man


5) Which would you rather watch in person?

64.4% NHL Finals Game 7

35.6% NBA Finals Game 7


6) Which is better?

66.7% NHL playoffs

33.3% NBA playoffs


Total Votes: 43,952
 
Re: HEY ALL

Originally posted by solarte1969
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