I seriously despise John Fox

He's not the one throwing the ball to the wrong team. You've got a QB with a 54 rating and 11 TO's through 3 games. Can't have a dud at the most important position on the field.

Maybe Fox is no good but you could have Parcells, Bellichick and Gruden on that sideline and it won't make a difference if Jake is taking the snaps.
 
He's not the one throwing the ball to the wrong team. You've got a QB with a 54 rating and 11 TO's through 3 games. Can't have a dud at the most important position on the field.

Maybe Fox is no good but you could have Parcells, Bellichick and Gruden on that sideline and it won't make a difference if Jake is taking the snaps.

Those picks last night weren't Jake's fault...those plays would have been interceptions even if Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or anybody else had been the QB.

Not apologizing for Arizona, but last night Jake was clean...his receivers turned those plays into interceptions as most observers agree.
 
one of those two balls still would be a double covered ball. And underthrown. The other, I guess you could say that a slant is a ball you throw anyway in single coverage, but hard to say since the route wasn't complete.
 
Those picks last night weren't Jake's fault...those plays would have been interceptions even if Peyton Manning or Tom Brady or anybody else had been the QB.

Not apologizing for Arizona, but last night Jake was clean...his receivers turned those plays into interceptions as most observers agree.

Bullshit. He threw them so they are his fault...and Brady or Manning would never throw those sorry passes so your comparison is stupid.

Just because the MNF crew says Muhammed should have fought for the ball or SS cut his route desn't mean they are not his fault. The throw to MM was horrible. You never underthrow a deep route because it gets picked most of the time. The best QB's miss that throw long if they miss it.

The other pick was a stupid throw even if SS stays on that slant. It was covered and the best case scenario is a completion for almost nothing. There is a strong chance is is broken up and could have been picked anyway.

Save the "Jake was clean" BS, because it is nothing more than BS. Bad throws get picked. He sucks.
 
The other pick was a stupid throw even if SS stays on that slant. It was covered and the best case scenario is a completion for almost nothing. There is a strong chance is is broken up and could have been picked anyway.

So its a dumb playcall then...how is that not coaching?
 
I've been a long time Fox supporter, but over the last 3 years, I've been changing my mind. This year is really pushing me to the belief that it is time to get rid of him.

It is really not wins or losses, it is about fundamental football. Poor tackling, penalties, missed assignments all fall back on the coaches. Keeping Jake Delhomme for so long and only bringing in scrubs for backups has cost us in the past and now we don't really have a choice other than to stick with Jake.

I'd much rather us have a "get after it" type team that looses becaue they are an inferior team, than a team that looses to equal or inferior teams because they can't play fundamentally sound football.
 
So its a dumb playcall then...how is that not coaching?

What are you talking about? SS ran a quick slant that got jumped. It was good defense so don't throw the ball there. Has nothing to do with Fox.
 
What are you talking about? SS ran a quick slant that got jumped. It was good defense so don't throw the ball there. Has nothing to do with Fox.


The route got jumped because Smith got frustrated he was getting blanket coverage so he broke off it. It was HIS job to be there in that spot, and by not finishing the route he totally F)$#ed a qb that should have major self confidence issues that pick notwithstanding. Jake still sucks regardless. That other throw was way short, but you are wrong, on deep routes receivers often come back for big receptions as they have a major advantage in seeing the ball. It was a crap throw AND a crap effort. 50/50 Jake/Moose. Jake still sucks.
 

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