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From Great Blue North ( 5 rounds worth for this exercise)

http://www.gbnreport.com/2004top100.htm

If the season ended today, we'd have 30th pick. I think we make the playoffs, but don't end up in the big game and pick around 27-28. Stack your pre draft board (within reason, no player ranked more than 2 slots above where we pick for the 1st two rounds & no more than 3 slots above where we pick rounds 3-6). Who do you think we should look at? We have picks 27, 59, 91, 123, & 155.
 
For our first rounder, I would love to see us get a WR. I like Jenkins.
 
27 Dunta Robinson CB 6-0, 185 South Carolina

Bit suprised to see him up their this high, but he's a guy I like who can make plays on the ball. WP28 said he's one of the guys we might be looking at, and given the other players on that list I gotta hope he's the prime guy.

59 Darius Watts WR 6-2, 185 Marshall

They have him rated much lower, but a speedy, tall guy with up side who can add on some weight is what I was looking for here.


91 Etric Pruitt FS 6-1, 190 Southern Mississippi

This was the best value I could find. Thought about Lorenzon for a lark. Not much he's rated here that fits some need. This pick wouldn't be pushed to start anyway, a true understudy.


123 Robert Peace LB 6-3, 235 Tennessee

Could go a round higher. Probably not a strong side guy ultimately, but a Morgan clone in a lot of ways.


155 Nick Newton OG 6-4, 330 Washington

Funny how guard is still a need.
 
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Originally posted by Piper
27 Dunta Robinson CB 6-0, 185 South Carolina

59 Darius Watts WR 6-2, 185 Marshall


91 Etric Pruitt FS 6-1, 190 Southern Mississippi


123 Robert Peace LB 6-3, 235 Tennessee


155 Nick Newton OG 6-4, 330 Washington

Nice job, overall, though starting a third round FS might be borderline. I'd hope we go FA there, period, since this team likes to make me nervous with their neglected needs flagging the obvious first round picks. But Everage in the second goes right before 59, and there's nothing in the ballpark of that pick (of course, we need the receiver) anyway.
I wish GBN had projected some juniors.

version 1:
27. Vasher, CB. Honestly, a bit more familiar with him, but also just find him more able than Robinson, at first if nothing else.

59. Rod Davis, LB. Big enough, versatile enough in theory to handle the strong side or middle, which keeps Witherspoon evermore on the weak side. Can become a team leader once regularly starting. We really need this style leader. Most definately leads his current team, some say much more so than Manning.
Obviously a good run stopper, plays inside currently and is a fit there or outside in the pros. At 10.5 sacks in 2002, could be a good blitz option, something this team desperately misses without Fields. Could, as well, find a niche locking onto the TE the way Fields did in 02, because neither are going to be great players against backs the way physical, fast LBs are often expected to do.

91. Max Starks, OT/G. Somewhat raw, and a name I've been aware of for years but has recently come up again at the behest of both Cali and Schroll. To be honest, I find him deficient in some respects because of his size and run blocking, not that he's not physical or powerful - he clears the hole. But I worry about his control, because pro DEs/DTs use their hands a lot better than college DL, and because there's just never going to be that size discrepancy to the same level in the pros. But that's where he's a great fit - his raw skills suggest that he's got what it takes, and I like the idea of giving someone raw but with three letters and plenty of bigtime attention, to Maser to work with. He could be a terror on the right side, not unlike former NFC Central RTs Eric Dotson, BigCat Williams, and so on.

123. BJ Johnson, WR. Assuming a starter in FA/RFA, of course, in both this and the other instance, a third or fourth should add necessary depth/future starting. Johnson's not great at anything, nor exceptional in athletcism, but he gets overshadowed and underused at times. As a 2/3, he's got the ability you want to see. Or get William Joseph's little brother for OT/G here and Watts at 91.

155. Honestly, not familiar enough with any of these players to go at great length. Mau Brown is decent, I certainly think of Kaedling as one of the top kickers/punters and have noted so here. Plenty of good backup/possible starting centers here, and that's all I'll say about that, dammit. That we can find backup OL in the second day.
 
1st Round-27
Rashaun Woods WR
Dunta Robinson CB
Kendyll Pope LB
Michael Boulware LB
Nathan Vasher CB

Woods would be target 1. Either CB would be an upgrade over what we have now. The LB's would give us depth and an eventual successor to Fields, probably too early for us to grab one though.

2nd Round-59
Brandon Everage FS
John Navare QB
Cody Pickett QB

I'm caught here between Everage and a shot at a decent QB. Jake's gonna have to become more consistant to earn an extention after next year and I don't think either Weinke or Peete are going to return. Musical QB's isn't something I think I want the Panthers to become involved in. This may force grabbing a QB here.

3rd Round-91
Tim Anderson DT
Etric Pruitt FS
Shannon Snell G
Randy Jordan CB
Darrius Watts WR

Buckner's health may become a factor as well here, which is why Anderson is a consideration. Pruitt is another alternative at FS. Snell could become Donnalley's replacement. Watts is talented but a bit of a reach here. Jordan if all other options are exhausted by our pick.

4th Round-123
Dexter Reid FS
BJ Johnson WR
Travelle Wharton T

Reid is as deep as I'd go taking a FS and only if I hadn't been able to grab one earlier. I like Johnson here also. Pretty good player. Wharton is a mauler, he'd fit in well with the scheme here.

5th Round-155
Curome Cox CB
Nick Newton G
Tommy Kelly DT

Cox is decent, but not all world. Newton looks like he'd fit here. Kelly is another big guy to plug the middle.

Ideally:
1-Woods
2-Everage
3-Anderson
4-Wharton
5-Cox
 
Schroll, you cheated. :p Woods and Everage aren't around at 27 and 59.


>>Rashaun Woods WR
>>Dunta Robinson CB
>>Kendyll Pope LB
>>Michael Boulware LB
>>Nathan Vasher CB

Woods would be a fine pick at 27, if there, which he wouldn't be if he got picked at 25. So if he's not, you gotta go CB, and frankly, we probably should anyway.

Duanta has a little more size, and I've seen him make plays on the ball and he's not stiff, so he' my preference. no knock against Vasher, but I haven't seen him play and I'm always suspicous of corners from that conference. See Jammer, Q.

Backers - Thomas I could get down with, as a player, but the need doesn't fit the value. Pass on them here.



>>I'm caught here between Everage and a shot at a decent QB.

I think we will look at vet FAs that can push. I could take Couch, for example, who just needs a change of scenery and would fit this offense nicely.

And honestly, even with Everage still there (gone at 57), might as well take the reciever remaining that you like, cause even if he's a third round player, good chance he won't be there at the end of the round. Reach. Watts really isn't that much of a reach, he's similar to Calico.

3rd Round-91


>>Buckner's health may become a factor as well here, which is why Anderson is a consideration.

I don't like looking for starters here. I'll just say that. Get a guy who can help you. Nice spot for a backer, honestly.

>>Ideally:
>>1-Woods
>>2-Everage
>>3-Anderson
>>4-Wharton
>>5-Cox



We get a playmaker in Woods. Get a FA, and WR is fine. We get a future starter in Everage. OK. We get some more DT depth, not bad, but really not much that's going to impact us with corner.

I think that's really got to be a priority. Unless of course we land a blue chip starter in FA.
 
Well, his rules were different from the ones I've generally suggested. Mine are that anything higher than the pick are gone, with his you can pick a couple spots ahead of that pick. To each his own, I picked from 27 down, and so on.

Agree about taking corner first. For one, we rely on D more, and two, I certainly hope we get our starter from the ranks of the veterans.

And as well, somewhat agree on Vasher. He's certainly not elite, nor is DR. I do certainly think he's a quality guy - Jammer is most definately talented, I can't totally grasp what his problem is right now. I don't think he'd have as many problems here.

Agree that LB is high for anything above 3rd, but a playmaker's a playmaker. We're going to lack that - WW is a steady, solid player in the making, and behind that we're most uncertain and unled.
 
I followed the rules-Woods is ranked 25 and Everage 57. That's within the two spots lower than our picks in the 1st and 2nd.:D
 
:)

If we went into FA and spent money on a corner, rolled the dice like that, then Woods and Everage would be nice indeed.

If we did not, then we got to get that corner first, IMO, and that would force a round 2 WR pick in my mind.
 

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