Davis on PUP
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none of the above. Week 7 he can start practicing. He apparently can start practicing as late as week 10. Either way he has within 3 weeks of practice to be active, at which time he takes up a roster spot or goes to IR.
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Thanks. So he could conceivably be on PUP until week 10 not counting against the 53 then start practicing still not counting. Then week 13 rolls around and he either goes active or IR. Cool.
Does the bye week count? I would assume that it does.
Does the bye week count? I would assume that it does.
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I don't think it works that way, you have a 3 week evaluation window (7-10) to decide whether to IR or activate, if they are practicing they are active and count on the roster.
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It's basically IR with the option to bring the guy back. Until we decide to active him, he's on the reserve list and doesn't count against the roster.
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the injury also has to have happened before camp starts, or else a lot more guys would be on PUP.
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yeah, that too
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from Gantt;
Not all PUPs created equal
Had a lot of email and twitter questions today about the difference between LB Thomas Davis' and RT Jeff Otah's PUP (physically unable to perform) status.
At the beginning of camp, if players aren't ready to go, the team will stick them on the active-PUP list. This is largely a paperwork maneuver, as they can be activated at any time, and they still count against the 80-man roster limit.
What Davis went on Tuesday was the reserve-PUP list, which makes him ineligible for the first six weeks. After that time, there's a three-week window for the player to start practicing. Once he starts practicing, there's another three weeks before they have to decide whether to cut a player to make room for him or end his season by putting him on IR.
Thus, Davis could be activated as soon as late October, but more likely no sooner than mid-November (if everything follows best case scenario trajectory).
They put him on the reserve-PUP list to buy themselves a roster spot in the short term, but mostly to protect his ability to come back if he continues to progress.
As unlikely as coming back from two torn ACLs in eight months might be, the fact Davis hasn't been shut down is a telling sign. He might not be able to play again this year, but the simple possibility is enough for him, so he's continuing to rehab like a man on his way back soon.
Not all PUPs created equal
Had a lot of email and twitter questions today about the difference between LB Thomas Davis' and RT Jeff Otah's PUP (physically unable to perform) status.
At the beginning of camp, if players aren't ready to go, the team will stick them on the active-PUP list. This is largely a paperwork maneuver, as they can be activated at any time, and they still count against the 80-man roster limit.
What Davis went on Tuesday was the reserve-PUP list, which makes him ineligible for the first six weeks. After that time, there's a three-week window for the player to start practicing. Once he starts practicing, there's another three weeks before they have to decide whether to cut a player to make room for him or end his season by putting him on IR.
Thus, Davis could be activated as soon as late October, but more likely no sooner than mid-November (if everything follows best case scenario trajectory).
They put him on the reserve-PUP list to buy themselves a roster spot in the short term, but mostly to protect his ability to come back if he continues to progress.
As unlikely as coming back from two torn ACLs in eight months might be, the fact Davis hasn't been shut down is a telling sign. He might not be able to play again this year, but the simple possibility is enough for him, so he's continuing to rehab like a man on his way back soon.
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It is probably a bad idea to try to rush him back this season. He may or may not be here long term but for his career's sake he ought to let it heal up completely before playing again.
