Wide Receivers we could go after

See, in case anyone ever wondered what I was talking about, this is what I meant. You've all seen me admit when I'm wrong about something, but magnus simply can't. He lacks the maturity or integrity to actually fess up to being wrong, even though everyone is wrong sometimes.

Dude, I posted the pictures. You were wrong about all of it. You were ridiculously wrong about Jake having "stepped a couple yards, each time, to the left of his OT block." This picture shows where we snapped the ball on that first INT, and this picture shows that Jake released the ball almost directly behind where he took the snap. It also shows Wharton to Jake's left, not with Jake being "a couple of yards ... to the left of his OT block." Then this picture shows that the second INT was also released almost directly behind where Jake took the snap from center.

And you were wrong about Jake not having set himself on the first INT. This picture again shows that Jake did set and did step into that throw.

You can't subjectively disagree with pictures, magnus. They prove you wrong. Disputing that instead of just owning up to your mistakes makes you look really bad, but sure, go ahead and keep arguing against indisputable visual evidence.

First off, I said "just inside the right hash," but nice try to twist what I said to make yourself less wrong. And where is Jake when he releases the ball on that first interception? That's right, he's just inside the right hash. In fact, his right foot is touching the innermost part of the white line. And where is Wharton? Not a step to Jake's right, but a step to Jake's left.


Everyone bookmark this thread for when magnus claims that he doesn't have a problem admitting that he's wrong about something. I provided indisputable visual evidence that he's wrong about multiple things and he simply can't admit it.

 

meltdowns are fun. That's why this is personal to you, rather than being rational and calm. I stated clearly when I noted something was incorrect that I stated, and I'm sure both of us have stated incorrect things that we haven't caught. The interesting thing is that this stopped being about the information a while back, which was basically the same thing that happened before.

I have no problem stating I'm wrong about things I feel I'm wrong about. The rest, of course, is opinion, which I'll argue once I'm in front of game tape later this evening. If it helps you calm down, I'm obviously not absolving Jake of wrongdoing. I'm just not trying to prove that every last thing that happens on the field is Jake purposefully doing something wrong.

 

See.....this is why people around here have a general (if not consensual) respect for Magnus.

It's not always about what you know (or what you think you know), but more about how you communicate what you (think) you know.

Mags is always gracious when I have a question about the game. 100% of the time, he answers the question accurately, without any sort of snobbery. He knows football, and, sadly for some, him being wrong about one thing now and then does not make him any less reliable.

So if you (think) you know everything there is about the game, advertise it constantly in rather belligerent fashion, don't act surprised when you lose respect and/or credibility.

 

You don't have much history here, so I'll excuse your ignorance. If you look back through some threads, especially in '03, Magnus was about as reviled here as I am now. He was frequently attacked for being an overbearing, arrogant jackass who could never admit that he was wrong about something. I, of course, am an even more inviting target. And while I'm certainly an overbearing, arrogant jackass, the one thing people can't say about me is that I don't admit when I'm wrong.

In fact, respecting the truth is why I usually beat Magnus in these arguments. He cares about validating his own views, not in viewing reality. I don't mind admitting that I was wrong about LT or Steve Smith or any number of things, because I'm obviously pretty unconcerned with my image. What matters to me is learning what is right.


Oh, and ColinG Jr, I have respect and credibility in abundance. People may not like me, but anyone who is actually interested in knowing something about football always pays attention to what I have to say. That's because they can trust that I care, that I have knowledge, and that I won't feed them a line of bullshit I know to be wrong just because I'm scared of admitting that I'm fallible.

 

Dont you guys have anything better to do than type these long arguing posts that no one can stand to read except the two who are participating in the pissing contest? I know I used to have quite a few of those type threads on here but I eventually got tired of it.

 

Discussion board.

 

I care about validating my own views? I'm not the one that went apeshit because "I was wrong about this particular note" wasn't stated in a way that shone enough light on you. I'm not out to attempt to force someone to say "I was wrong" about a minor opinion point.

I care about the discussion, not making someone pay for having made me angry over nothing. And not about trying to declare myself the winner of some silly competition.


Sure, there was a time when I was a good deal less hospitable here, though never to a Collin level, and generally to a smaller amount of people. I'm strong willed, and hard-headed, just like 95% of the people I've argued with. And the best thing is that I learned that being a fucking cock wasn't healthy, and wasn't useful.


BTW, on the first INT, sitting here for about half a minute reminds me that Jake first runs right a few yards, and then comes all the way back left. Not as far as I remembered, but as I noted, I was wrong about that point. I do remember a pretty strong push left, just as 1st INT, and the movement right makes up for the distance I was off.

Either way, the throws are clearly caused by mechanics, not an awful read or a misjudgement. I guess that's what this comes down to, the idea that if Jake made a mistake, that things still went exactly as he had intended other than the result.

 

Youd be hard pressed to find guys here who like mags more than me, but to say mags isnt a bit of a snob, lol, is just not true!

You know I love ya though, bro!

 

For the record, I have never seen Collin admit he was wrong about anything...carry on.

 

No, you don't. You never have and you never will. You don't give a shit about what anyone else thinks, you only pay lip service to it in order to glorify yourself. And quite frankly, that's somewhat understandable because you're on a completely different level in terms of football thought than almost everyone else here. But knowing that, you love yourself and your thoughts so much that you absolutely will not ever let go of a point and just admit that you're wrong because it tarnishes your precious image. For Christ's sake, if you can't do it in this thread where I have pictures that prove you undeniably and very clearly wrong, you'll never be able to do it. You always claimed that I was making up this stuff about you, perhaps because you can't even be honest with yourself, but this is all the proof I'll ever need that what I said about you was right all along.



McFly:
That's because you're a dumbshit. Hell, in this thread alone I already copped to the fact that I was wrong about how many yards Jake's Chicago INTs were underthrown. I'm probably right 90% of the time, but as much as I talk about football, that still means I endaup admitting that I'm wrong about once a week if notamore (with the LT and Steve Smith comments being most famous). Honestly I don't think you actually believe what you said, I think you're just acting out our bitterness by trying to take another shot at me.