Why should we draft Leftwich

I can deal with Delhomme being the starter - but I'd still want a pick next year. By shirking our one good chance to get a QB in past, recent, or likely future history, we'll have screwed ourselves. Same for passing up a shut down corner. Choosing between the two? Sure. We obviously don't get two players at #9. Can we afford to pass one over? Naturally. Can we pass over both for a tackle? Sure hope not.

 

I think it's going to cost us more to get a qb next year. I'm hoping we have to draft somewhere in the 20's next year. To get someone like a Manning next year is going to cost us dearly to move up in the draft. Linemen will be there next year. JMO

 

Linemen'll be there this year too. We can still get solid starters and continue to have our lines be a strength, without sacrificing the future of this team. That's the thing that mysifies me, that these supposedly unbeatable teams who can run block don't put high first round picks into linemen, and yet it's painted like the idea that can't be beat.

 

If were drafting in the 20's next year...that means Delhomme has likely done the job and made QB less of a need. If Jake falls apart, we're picking top 10 again and in position to take a top QB.

 

plus there will be more cheap FA's running around that we could again sign another one of those -- i'd just soon get outa that fricking endless cycle of futility. manning might not would fall to us again like lefty might. i say if he is there, ya gotta pick him.

 

Leftwich impresses NFL scouts

Marshall QB leaves no doubt he's recovered from broken tibia

By JOHN McCLAIN
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle

... Last week in Florida, where he had been working out to get back into playing shape, Leftwich had his coming-out party for NFL coaches and scouts. After he threw 70 passes in the pocket and on the run, the consensus was that Leftwich surpassed Boller and regained his spot behind Palmer.

... and he was clocked in the 40-yard dash in 4.88 seconds. He was lighter and faster than the scouts expected.

Two Cincinnati receivers -- Peter Warrick and Ron Dugans -- caught passes from Leftwich.

"I think he's going to be a great NFL quarterback," Dugans said.

... Leftwich's strength isn't just his size. The scouts say he has the strongest arm in the draft.

"In a dome, I can throw it about 82 yards," Leftwich said. "Outside, I can throw it about 77 or 78.

"I like to practice throwing from my knees. I can get it 55 yards through the uprights. I think it helps my arm strength because I can't use my legs.

"I'll never have to throw from my knees, of course, but it's great to know I can do it."

... "I'd love to go to Cincinnati, but it doesn't matter what team," Leftwich said. "It's going to be a great deal to be with any of the 32 teams. I feel fortunate to be in a position to play with and against the greatest players in the world."

 

If we had drafted Boselli instead of Collins in 95 do you think that would have been a good move? Granted Boselli is hurt now and may have a short career but based on talent Boselli is the obvious choice. I just do not want to end up like a lot of teams who find the QB who is drafted high and ends up a bust every year. For every Drew Bledsoe there is a Rick Mirer, for every Peyton Manning there is a Ryan Leaf, for every McNabb there is a McNown.

I am not sure Delhomme is going to be a good starting QB. I am also not sure that Leftwich would be a good starting QB. I know either of them needs a good OL and running game to support him. We already have Delhomme so do the math.

Peete is a decent backup type QB. Our offense was so bad last year because 1. no running game (Smith is no where near Stephen Davis) 2. no depth at WR (Proehl and Dyson are a big upgrade from Bright, Black and Hankton) I think Delhomme is an upgrade on Peete along with Stephen Davis, Kevin Dyson, Ricky Proehl we should be ok at the skill positions.

 

I wouldn't have taken Boselli. Other picks would have been better for a talentless team. The Jags stole Brunell, had to trade up to get a running back, and didn't have good receivers that year. They didn't have anything at all defensively. With that many picks, they could have done well on the OL without totally losing impact and being more productive early on.

Even still, Boselli was a dominant player. Gross is not.

Collins makes a good example for you - I've already gone over the bust potential for Leftwich. Notice how many of those Collins would have failed. So I'm not even going to bother with it.

I guess you're set that no matter what, a second round OT isn't good enough? Or is it that we'll argue this forever?

 

If you would not have drafted Boselli who would you have taken with that pick?

I think the chance of Delhomme being adequate are just as good as Lefty being adequate. The only difference is that Delhomme can help us now and is already signed. Either one of them will need a good OL to help him.

If either is still on the board then Gross or Trufant should be our pick regardless of Lefty.

 

Collins did have some early success before drinking it away.

He wasn't accurate, or smart, but he had enough arm to threaten defenses. We a couple of good lineman, an average back, and average recievers. But a great defense, conservative running game, and the deep ball was enough to win.

Sound familar?

And that arm was why he was picked, and why he has had success with the Giants with maturity, despite his inaccuracy.

So it sounds like you can get a conservative running game with an average back if you have a QB who can threaten a defense deep. Jake won't be able to do that, he doesn't have a great arm. Lefty does.

95 draft.....

I wasn't as in to it then as I am now. I liked McNair, and still do. I liked Boselli. I liked the trade down at the time more.

Sapp was the best player on the board at 5 I thought then, and was the best player through his rookie contract. McNair is the best player now.