Yeah. Well, to me, part of talent is the mental part - making it challenging (so as to not be bored), but still appealing, so others will want to appreciate it, and creative. That's where I find Trane and Parker and Diz and Monk and ... so on to have been incredibly talented - they were all excellent musicians but it's what they made and what they did within it that is awe inspiring to me. For instance, Giant Steps is probably Trane's most challenging physical work, but it's good for just what it is. The modes, and then his spiritual work, mean something. Dizzy had bad tone unmuted, and Miles Davis was, to me, an average trumpet player. He flubbed a lot of notes that you won't hear the average college undergrad flub. But his body of music still stands up to most anything.
I play a mean see-and-say. hey you guitar geeks...what do you play? What's your setup? Do any of you actually play an electric instrument, even if it's an acoustic with pickups? Pedals? amp? I'm becoming more of a gearhead than a musician as a guitar player, but luckily it's not my main instrument. The see and say, then the sax, then the kazoo, then the guitar.