We were not conservative enough....

Per the Redskins game: 2nd and ten.. draw, 3rd and 10.. draw, 4th and 7 pass for 5 yards.. this isn't conservative enough? The mind boggles...

 

perfect example.

I don't care if they run it every time either, if we were successful. Running more than passing or passing more than running is NOT what defines conservatism or not.

 

Things I could do without:

Draws on third and ten or more
Long passes to Goings
Smoke screens to anyone besides Smith
Weinkie standing in the pocket for ten seconds then getting sacked
Trick plays that call for anyone other than the QB to throw the ball
Trick plays on special teams that call for passes from one corner to another
Dropping Peppers into coverage and blitzing a guy in his spot
Safeties who can not tackle
Keyshawn not fighting for a jump ball in the endzone
Smith and Keyshawn dropping passes
Not having a tight end who can catch a ball before it bounces off his face mask
Thirty yard passes on third and six
Pressure in the quarterbacks face on a consistent basis
Trying to run the clock out in the first half

 

Things I would like to see more of:

Short quick slants on 1st and 2nd down
Screens
Runs to the outside
Any throws to the middle of the field.

 

I would like to see more effective use of Smith. If teams are going to over commit to stopping him then we need to be able to make them pay. I think a good receiving tight end would help in this area. If the safety and the corner on the strong side follow Smith down field then the tight end will be covered by a linebacker.

 

I'd be allright if it were all just lack of execution. I'd just be pissed at the players. But there's always "a punt isn't always a bad thing." Competitors don't want that, competitors want to score.

Supposedly, it hasn't changed from last year. Supposedly, it isn't that our down and distance is longer. Problem is, the only thing offered up as a solution is that it's just Jake.

 

Actually, a third and long draw is not necessarily conservative, nor a bad call, if you rarely did it (meaning no more than one time a game or less on 3rd and long), especially if most time you did it you were successful, which a bunch of teams are at getting 12 or more on a third and 10 draw- but they don't do it much and it comes as a surprise because they pass mostly on third and long which is a formula for that play (expecting pass on 3rd and 10 and the O sending 4 out in patterns, taking much of the scondary with them, etc.

But we have tons of 3rd and longs most every game, and seemingly run draw on a high % of them. They are expected and rarely work.

What's worse, is our playbook is so simple, and admittedly by the staff and painfully obvious to us, we've run the same plays over and over to death. Not only do the other Ds know what we're gonna do, we don't execute well because of many reasons- mostly becaus of the OL problems. Not to mention, the play calls wouldn't be so awful in and of themselves, but like Mags says, the timing of the calls suck.

What's frustrating is it seems even now that our staff is 'looking for answers', as it were, but they don't seem to recognize most of the problems for whatever reason, thus, I don't think you can find real answers while in denial, overlooking, or just flat out not recognizing the problems.

 

If the guy who espouses that theory were as half as smart as he supposedly thinks he is then he would be coaching the Panthers.....

 

oh lord




Anyway, what Fox says is true. We're having to throw the ball a shitload of times, out of shotgun, mainly because we have retarded run blockers and a retarded quarterback. I'm sure that in a perfect world, we would be running the ball 35 times a game.


I can't believe some of our fans actually complain about how we "run, pass, then run a draw" every series. I mean, really, do these people actually watch the games? If anything, it's been "run for no gain, throw out of shotgun, throw out of shotgun again". We haven't been conservative though.

 

I think the hard part is that Jake's good enough on 1st and 2nd - and not just because of dumpoffs. We don't go deep every third down or more than we do on 1st or 2nd.

He's not statistically better between 2 WR, 3 WR, 4+ WR, or in shotgun, so it's not like he specifically has struggled with 3rd down type formations. But in none of those situations are his QB rating much different - which you'd figure they would be, with his low % of 3rd downs.

Which Weinke has at least as bad of a problem with, BTW.