we simply aren't very good....

Chipshot posted this in another thread. It's true.

The only thing we consistently are good at is providing highlight reels for other players looking good, and records for other teams. Shit, if you've never scored a TD before, play the panthers, you'll get a ball. (see Mexico's first TD- against us, he just comes into the game and runs 30+ yards for a score).

We make RBs look great if they've never done anything before. They have career games against us.

In fact, lotsa players on other teams seem to have career days against us. Funny too, some are never heard from again.

We simply are not any good, and we have talent- and not the worst in the NFL, but we play like the worst in the NFL, especially against the worse in the NFL.

I put it coaching, and stoopid mistakes by plyers, IE- Jakes descisions.

Whether it's head coaching or assistants/coordinators, we suck consistently.
Translation: "streaky", and it's been our MO for far too long.

I bet if we have another bad year this year, JR will be looking for some heads to roll, whether it be coaches or players. And from what I've seen as a product, the panthers ain't a good one. Fate and luck took us to the SB, as well as a timing peak and the fact we were considered underdogs much of the year and Jake surprised folks. But fate and luck can work both ways.

Face it, we simply aren't any good, and it has a lot more to do with gameplanning, playcalling, active players, etc., than it does with the quality of talent.

This team disgusts me, and I consider myself as rabid a fan as there is. I've never missed a game, or a preseaon game. ANd I'll have to say, with all the heartache and heartburn this team has given me, and all the sunday's I've spent on them, that if it weren't for us going to the SB in 2003 showing a ray of hope, and we'd have had a typical season then (like last year, this year, so far, etc.) I'm afraid I would have given up on them and became just a casual fan feeling nothing either way for there results.

In fact, I'm becoming more and more that way now. My blood pressure (which is low) seems to boil on sunday's, and I'm libel to have a stroke as pissed as those guys make me. The team seems to becoming a product that ain't worth 3 hrs on sunday of free TV- much less anything that costs anything.

 

[meatpile] 7-9 [/meatpile]

 

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we? Ace is gonna be pissed

 

Another annoying thing is how our former players always look so good against us. Chuck Wiley blocked a field goal. That Skunina sp? was knocking down passes like Too Tall Jones.

 

After review of my original post, the post stands as called.

However, the jist must be clarified:

We are 'potentially' a good football team. Therefore, the bad play and losses seem much more bad tasting than if we thought that we are not a very good team and savoring our victories when they do occur.

It's the good play and bad play streaks that are hard to take, and I'm not sure where the fault lies.

Either way, my bet is that if we have another bad season, some heads are gonna roll- just like Capers' head after the 4-12 season, one season removed from our NFC championship/loss season.

And I don't think we have to win less than 7 games for those heads to be sawed off by JRs blade when this season comes to an end essentially by week 9 or 10.

In fact, 3 losses over the next 3 weeks, and the ESPN hot seat coaches articles will start having Fox and companies name on them. And they will be right.

 

I think the fact that we barely lose games despite playing like total crap actually suggests that we are, or at least should be a good team. We have talent and we can execute, but all too often we find a way to lose. Jake has played an enormous part in that, but there is enough blame to go around. I expected the INT, so that didn't burn me up quite as much as allowing Ronnie Brown's 58 yard run from their own 4 yard line. We barely even got a hand on him. Our linebackers aside from Witherspoon and our defensive backs aside from Lucas have played like ass this season.


And Zgonina hasn't been with us for a very long time, but he didn't show much promise while here. To his credit, he became a good player since then, and I always noticed defenses improving wherever he arrived, be it St. Louis or Miami. He's one of those rarely mentioned cogs that just does the little things perfectly. He won't get many sacks or even many tackles, but he occupies blockers and never misses an assignment. Having someone like him opposite Buckner would be a huge help right now, but that's pretty low on our list of priorities at the moment.

 

Morgan gets a lot of the blame for that Brown run. As he did much of last year, he chose a lane before Brown, and Brown predictably took advantage.

Gamble missed a number of tackles. You've played bad when Manning, who can't even play nickel well this year, plays better as the other starting corner. The INT was a nice help, but the rest was awful.

 

I've noticed he does that a lot. If you look at the replay from our EZ, you see a big hole open as soon as the handoff occurs- so Morgan commits to it- running headlong into it (admittedly to make a play) only for the RB to cut into the other truck sized hole on the other side of the center. Where was/is the other LB to fill that hole? If there ain't one, maybe he commits too fast giving the rb time to see his commital before chosing the hole.

Admittedly, there should be only one hole to go thru if the D is playing right, but too often there is more than one hole for the opposing rb to go thru. And amazingly, sometimes they are huge, very.

And Minter maybe should sat out yesterday. He was nowhere he needed to be. And when he went to hit, he like pussed out when it came to contact, and he was slow.

 

The way linebackers are coached (or at least what I've seen) is that when you see a whole you explode through it. If Morgan filled that hole and there must have been another for Brown to run thru. Choo Choo or Short should have been in the other hole. From my experience, Morgan was doing as he was coached, but I'm assuming what his coaches are telling him is what I've seen.