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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by meatpile, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. Thelt

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    I would have kept Lewis. He may not have ever been great but he was the best DT we had and could have provided some much needed stability while we work in the younger guys. I would have hung on to Diggs as well. If none of the young guys could beat him out for the job then keep him. I would have probably kept Harris too. He had a down year but was a good player against the run and we could have used him situationallly if nothing else. Kemo needed to go because he was not worth the roster bonus he had coming and Peppers wanted out.

    I doubt we saved a whole lot by letting Lewis, Diggs and Harris go.
     
  2. CosmikCatNip

    CosmikCatNip of myth and lore

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    i think harris had peaked. we were fortunate to get his best though. i don't buy the top 10 defense. i do buy that article that ranked our dline worst in the league however. right now, we are. maybe not in september, and hopefully not at say thanksgiving. it's the backbone of the defense and can help cover ineffciencies at other spots on the field. we don't have that ability right now.
     
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    lewis and thomas were decent but nothing more. leonard looked to be the best we had at dt until he got hurt. from the reports we are getting it sounds like we are going to be no worse and probably have better depth than we had last year if the injury bug doesn't bite us.

    i dunno on Beason. when he first arrived i argued that his position was mlb and got beat up about it. but honestly, when he started at wlb he did a very good job as a green rook. i was pleasantly surprised and hense my comfort level with him moving to wlb and anticipation that he's going to be even better there than at mlb. my understanding though is that with meeks d that the wlb is where you need a stud ala brooks. wasn't brooks an undersized lb without the blazing timed speed. i think beason makes up a lot for whatever lack of speed by his anticipation and feel for the game. in this d he's going to rack up brooks like stats.

    connor on the other hand has always looked like a mlb to me and i think he'd struggle on the outside. but i think he's going to prove to be a very, very good mike.

    typos in my post may have lead you to think that i wasn't being fair to peppers. yes, he was a monster in some games but he was also about the worst player on the d in a few games. meeks d requires explosive ends to get pressure on the qb. don't know that we have it but i think we are going to be okay and have a more consistent effort that won't lose games the way peppers did.

    i was not a fan of harris. too many missed tackles going for the big hit and piss poor in coverage. he was miscast in meeks d which requires the safeties to have exceptional range.

    i think with beason and connor we will actually be better against the run than last year. the safeties should give us ability to get more aggressive run support from our corners. with our running game and being able to open the short passing game, our d isn't going to be on the field as much as a lot of teams so their stats should help to push them into the top of the league.

    yep, there's some uncertainty. but i don't think it is unrealistic to think (hope) that we will be very good on d.
     
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    we aren't going to miss diggs.

    connor is a mlb. that is his best position.

    beason i think will prove to better in this d at wlb than thomas and maybe better in this d at wlb than mlb.

    so i disagree with you on your all 3 are outa position stance. anderson just doesn't have the ability you want at wlb in this d. but he probably can do as well as diggs at slb.
     
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    actually we did. we needed better and they just didn't fit in this d and woulda just held us back if we hung on to them.
     
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    kinda hard to say that they're terrible when we haven't even seen them. i'm not sure the d-line is the backbone of meeks d. he does need to get a pass rush from the front 4 because they can't afford to blitz alot with this d. lewis and thomas couldn't begin to do that. there's at least hope at this point that this year we can. it's a change from what we are used to seeing but dungy was pretty effective with it at one time. i gotta believe we are going to see a lot of progress this year. connor i think is going to be a tackling maching in the middle, though most of the runs are going to be funneled to beason. i'm getting more excited by the day.
     
  7. CosmikCatNip

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    i'm excited to see how this team changes and grows as the season goes along. not so much as for expectations. in regards to the line, we went to the superbowl with a monsterous dline, and really, not a whole lot behind it.
     
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    nice input again
     
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    true, although before that season began there was alot of questions about our d-line and burton wasn't exactly a monster. but there's more than one way to skin a cat. meeks has a different style that relies more on speed than on monsters. if nothing else you got to admit even at this point that this is a much faster team on both offense and defense than we have ever had. i don't think we have so much of a talent issue as we are gonna have an issue of being prone to mistakes because we are so young. but, meeks i think is gonna be night and day better a coach than trgo ever was ... so i am hopeful we will get off to a good start.
     

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