This calls for a boycott

if by boycott you mean never buy tickets, then ive had that covered since 1995.

 

blind luck move

back in Feb I had to have major surgery, I have two lower level PSL's . So when the bill come due for the tickets (close to 2K) I wasn't in a position to get them. I wound up selling them to a broker for face value, which bummed me at the time. However now watching these slugs not so much, if that broker is getting face now he is working miracles .

 

Look, I'm not saying go to the games. I'm just saying I will gladly usher those who boycott back in when they win a couple games.

To compare our past decade of football to that of the Detroit Lions is insane. Yea, everyone's a little cranky about being 0-5. So, hell, don't go. I never said "YOU'RE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU'RE NOT THERE EACH SUNDAY!"

I just like going to NFL games, even bad ones, in the event that the team pulls out a win. Makes for a fun time, and a good drive home.

The idea of boycotts and petitions, on any level, just gives me douche chills.

 

You make several erroneous assumptions. Here is the deal. Support the team emotionally, but don't throw money at a team when the owner is not. If you bought PSLs, you should be feeling raped right now. He took a year's worth of PSL payments and ticket prices from you as a result of his business decision. Maybe it pays off. Yes, I will jump back on board financially, but not until the owner does. Now, you can be happy watching a shitty team get its ass whipped and feel noble about suffering through the lean times, but what is happening here is not about losing on equal footing. It is about paying to see quality football, the kind JR promised when he pitched his PSL idea, and not getting what you pay for. And it is like the Lions, who let Matt Millen and ownership screw the fans who still supported the team. Had they not, maybe Millen would not have been around as long. It should not take 10 years for an intelligent person to see that.

 

I still think it's hilarious that we have lost no more than 9 game in one season over the past 8 seasons, and we're being compared to the Detroit Lions, who have failed to win 10 games in one season in 15 years.

 

like my good friends over at http://www.pantherfanz.com say... we've never lost a tailgate!

I will be at the next tailgate/game

 

I've been so mad before that I wanted to see a mass exodus, because I was piping hot, and wanted an irrational blast of horrid to fall upon the team and that damn stadium. But it lasts for a few minutes.

When I can go, I go. I see what you're saying with the owner, but in the end, I do believe JR wants to win. Guy has NO history of being cheap. He just doesn't. The Panthers are a team known to agents as a goldmine...this has been said a few times in the past. Now, granted, that's changing...this season has been wretched. But if LaFell catches a few passes, and Moore played where he left off last year, and the line blocks a LITTLE better, we're near .500. We might even be 4-1, who knows. No one would be suggesting Richardson threw in the towel then.

It's a disaster, yes. But realistically, I don't think a guy who hasn't been cheap in 15 years is going to start now. Whether you want to be upset at him and blame the labor situation, then that's fine.

But we as fans have to represent, also. I work a lot of Sundays, now. But every year, I was good for at least 3-4 home games. Lately, I hope for one. I won't ever...I just can't...boycott. I'm sorry.

It's not about pride. I've been a Panther fan since inception, and I don't have to throw old old tales around to prove it, and I don't give two fucks if anyone likes the kind of fan I am or not. So fuck pride. It's about...the team. To me? I'm a part of the team when I'm there. I falls on me and 72,000 others to make it fuckass hard on the opposing team's offense. I want to be responsible for a false start. Ya know? Make it five yards harder on a play that might've worked brilliantly had they not lost those...

I am solidly opposed to a boycott. Now...come two Sundays from now, I might change my mind for a few hours. But after that...I'll inevitably be back where I am now.

 

well. i've been to 2 so far this season. and maybe a couple of more if things line up correctly. this is america. go or don't go. i don't care, and it's none of my business. it's disposable income, and everyone is free to dispose of it how they see fit. from an investment value standpoint, right now it's not a good product, and i can understand why someone might not be keen on throwing money down the shithole that passes for a team currently.

 

I don't believe Jerry is any more responsible for our historically marginal-to-horrible play in the month of September over the past decade than Fox would be. Hurney has been given a nice budget to play with, and for 8 years, we fielded a team that fell short of yearly expectations, but always played their best football in December.

The slow starts? Mystery to me. We had four quick jumps out of the gate under Fox (02, 03, 05, 08). 75% of the time, in those cases, we were a playoff team.

This is a coaching issue. When you prove you can win 75-90% of your games after Thanksgiving, yet you're missing the playoffs 66% of the time, it's not hard to figure out the problem--slow ass starts. And, typically, the slow starts are clumsy, unprepared looking games--not close, competitive battles where we just got outplayed.

 

I was comparing the management's relationship with the fans and how losses did not seem to justify the need for change. As long as the fans kept supporting the Lions, there was no sense of urgency. Wins and losses are the side effects. I am looking at it from a business perspective, and the way management in Detroit screwed the fan base was hard to watch. Here, Richardson seems to know he has us by the short hairs. Is that part different? He is not doing what has to be done to win, Detroit didn't either and look at them now. If we continue with this mindset, we will be the next Detroit. I am not of the opnion I should support the process that uses the fan base. If we win in 2012 I will be happy--you are right. But losing today deliberately so you might win tomorrow while raising ticket prices is like thanking someone for bending you over.