should be at least 10 mock draft threads by now

I was actually thinking of Hangartner in there too. No one will avoid mistakes, of course. I think there's a lack of raw ability there too. Ability to get in the right spot and get in the way, yes. Ability to move someone, except on a rare occassion when they run themselves into a position vulnerable to a wham block, no. Mathis, maybe a little, but I doubt it. It the lack of ability I'm more concerned with. Hard to teach that.

 

yeah, Mathis doesn't look to have as much talent as we all expected. He looks like Montgomery - a later round guy's type look.

Hangartner I just want at C. He showed he lacked the power to even stand up for his own space at times when he was covered up.

 

SI says that Moses looks bad at the Senior Bowl and many places now have him as a second rounder.

Also, Don Banks put out his first mock and has five teams taking a DE in the first round, but Moses did not make the list. We're one of those teams, as he has us taking Adam Carriker. I haven't watched Nebraska so I have no idea how good he is, but that seems odd considering I haven't seen him listed anywhere near that high by other services.

 

Speaking of Nebraska.."Stewart Bradley"

 

FWIW, I watched the Senior Bowl practice on Monday and they were talking about Carriker. He looked like a house, and pretty quick. While looking at Carriker in mock drafts earlier in the year, he was the one guy that I did not want, but watching him in 1 on 1 drills made me warm up to him. Definate run stopping end, which is what I think we need to compliment Peppers.

 

I definitely wouldn't want someone like Adams or Moses who is weak against the run, but I think our biggest need at the other DE spot is someone who can generate pressure. At times we really seemed to miss that from the other side.

 

Sports Illustrated's Don Banks offers this mock draft:

Mock NFL Draft No. 1

Oakland Raiders
1 QB JaMarcus Russell LSU Jr. 6-6 260
If it were my call, the pick would be Notre Dame's Brady Quinn, who has the track record you're looking for in a quarterback. But the early word is that the Raiders are ga-ga over Russell's size and big arm.

Detroit Lions
2 QB Brady Quinn Notre Dame Sr. 6-4 228
The Lions are sending out plenty of smoke signals that the pick could be Clemson DE Gaines Adams or Wisconsin OT Joe Thomas. But don't be stupid, Matt Millen. You take Quinn, have him sit and watch Jon Kitna play for a year, and hand him the ball in 2008.

Cleveland Browns
3 # OT Joe Thomas Wisconsin Sr. 6-8 315
The Browns and Bucs coin flip at the NFL Combine for the No. 3 and 4 spots could be huge. For now, we'll give the Browns Thomas, this year's premier offensive lineman. Cleveland's OL had trouble from day one of training camp in 2006.
(# -- Coin flip at NFL combine between Browns and Bucs for No. 3 pick)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 # WR Calvin Johnson Georgia Tech Jr. 6-5 235
If one of the top two quarterbacks should linger, Tampa Bay might bite. But there would be no delay in turning in the card for Johnson at No. 4. He's the draft's can't-miss offensive talent.
(# -- Coin flip at NFL combine between Browns and Bucs for No. 3 pick)

Arizona Cardinals
5 DE Gaines Adams Clemson Sr. 6-5 260
The Cardinals should have their choice of defensive stars: Adams, Arkansas DE Jamaal Anderson or Michigan DT Alan Branch. Those three could come off the board in order at 5-6-7.

Washington Redskins
6 DE Jamaal Anderson Arkansas Jr. 6-6 280
Gregg Williams' defense hardly breathed on opposing quarterbacks in 2006, so Anderson's edge rushing skills should look pretty appealing to the Redskins.

Minnesota Vikings
7 WR Ted Ginn, Jr. Ohio State Jr. 6-0 180
Brad Childress comes out of the Andy Reid school of thinking that you build a team from the inside out, concentrating on your lineman first. But Minny's anemic offense needs playmakers at receiver, and Ginn's speed is enticing.

Houston Texans
8 RB Adrian Peterson Oklahoma Jr. 6-2 220
See, there was a plan after all. No Reggie Bush? No problem. Peterson is this year's elite runner and should end the Texans' backfield problems. Now, about that snub of Vince Young ...

Miami Dolphins
9 DT Alan Branch Michigan Jr. 6-6 330
The Dolphins defense is getting older by the minute, and Branch is a top-rated lineman who's big enough at 6-5, 330 to play on the nose, and athletic enough to shift to end when needed.

Atlanta Falcons
10 WR Dwayne Jarrett USC Jr. 6-5 210
We know this might be a bit high for Jarrett, but as even Falcons owner Arthur Blank has noted, Atlanta doesn't have any receivers who can catch the ball. If you're giving Michael Vick one last shot, at least find him a go-to guy other than Alge Crumpler.

 

San Fransisco 49ers
11 S Reggie Nelson Florida Jr. 6-1 195
Nelson stands out as a prospect who can handle both skill sets that are required of top-flight safeties in the NFL. He can hit, and he can cover.

Buffalo Bills
12 CB Leon Hall Michigan Sr. 5-11 195
We'll go straight need pick here, giving the Bills the draft's top-rated cornerback in anticipation of them losing Nate Clements in free agency. Hall is a proven performer.

St. Louis Rams
13 DT Amobi Okoye Louisville Sr. 6-1 315
Okoye blew people away during Senior Bowl workouts this week. He weighed in a little light at 287 pounds (down from 305), but his blend of speed and athleticism makes him a disruptive force in the middle.

Carolina Panthers
14 DE Adam Carriker Nebraska Sr. 6-6 295
If Mike Rucker has indeed played his last game as a Panther, Carriker would fit nicely lining up opposite of left end Julius Peppers. His stock is expected to rise after his Combine workout. LSU safety LaRon Landry would be another solid option.

Pittsburgh Steelers
15 DE Jarvis Moss Florida Jr. 6-6 250
If new Steelers coach Mike Tomlin switches to the 4-3 defensive formation that he knows -- and that's no given since he retained Dick LeBeau as coordinator -- he could be in the market for an edge rusher like Moss.

Green Bay Packers
16 RB Marshawn Lynch California Jr. 5-11 216
Lynch would give the Packers offense the big-play dimension it has lacked in the running game since Ahman Green's last great season, in 2003. Lynch can carry the mail.

Jacksonville Jaguars
17 DE Charles Johnson Georgia Jr. 6-2 272
The Jaguars covet a pass rusher and would be thrilled if Moss, the Gators standout, remains on the board for them. Barring that, they'll settle for Johnson, who was on the other side of the Florida-Georgia rivalry in college.

Cincinnatti Bengals
18 CB Marcus McCauley Fresno State Sr. 6-1 200
The Bengals need a defensive tackle to take over for the ancient Sam Adams, but figure to miss out on both Branch and Okoye. With Tory James a disappointment in 2006, the Bengals could stand to take a first-round cornerback for the second year in a row.

Tennessee Titans
19 WR Robert Meachem Tennessee Jr. 6-3 211
The Titans could use an upgrade at receiver and Meachem has the added bonus of being a Vol. But Tennessee could consider either LSU's Dwayne Bowe or South Carolina's Sidney Rice as well.

New York Giants
20 S LaRon Landry LSU Sr. 6-2 202
New York signed safety Will Demps last year, but his first season as a Giant was inauspicious at best. Landry is an athletic, play-making free safety who can roam the deep middle and tighten up that New York secondary.

 

Cleveland Browns
21 CB Daymeion Hughes California Sr. 6-2 188
With the death of Darrent Williams, the Broncos are in need of a replacement in their secondary. Hughes needs to run well at the Combine to climb this high, but he has been very consistent and productive in college.

Dallas Cowboys
22 OT Levi Brown Penn State Sr. 6-5 328
Brown would represent great value for the Cowboys, because some draft-niks have him cracking the top 10. Though Dallas would ideally like to address its secondary issues, Brown offers them help at tackle should Marc Colombo escape in free agency.

Kansas City Chiefs
23 WR Sidney Rice South Carolina So. 6-4 202
The Chiefs appear to be in luck in that their need for a receiving threat jives nicely with what should be available at this point in the first round. Another year with just Eddie Kennison and Sammy Parker won't cut it.

New England Patriots
24 WR Dwayne Bowe LSU Sr. 6-3 220
With Tedy Bruschi mulling retirement, the Pats desperately need help at inside linebacker. But they have two first-rounders to work with. For now, we're giving them Bowe, who addresses their deficiency at receiver. He had a great Senior Bowl week.

New York Jets
25 DT Tank Tyler North Carolina State Sr. 6-2 310
The Jets made due with veteran Kimo von Oelhoffen on the nose last season, but Tyler would give them a prospect to groom at that key position.

Philadelphia Eagles
26 OLB Lawrence Timmons Florida State Jr. 6- 230
The Eagles need to upgrade at linebacker and Timmons is a great athlete who could step right into the outside spot that Dhani Jones manned in 2006.

New Orleans Saints
27 CB Darrelle Revis Pittsburgh Jr. 6-0 205
After the rocky postseason turned in by cornerback Fred Thomas, the Saints know where they need to focus on draft day. Texas CB Aaron Ross or Arkansas CB Chris Houston are other cover men the Saints might be looking at.

New England Patriots
28 ILB Patrick Willis Mississippi Sr. 6-2 240
If the Patriots go receiver with their first No. 1, they're almost certain to spend their second on an inside linebacker who can replace either Bruschi or Junior Seau, allowing Mike Vrabel to shift back outside.

Baltimore Ravens
29 LB Stewart Bradley Nebraska Sr. 6-4 250
Bradley had a great week in Mobile, and really elevated himself into contention for the bottom of the first round. The Ravens could lose Adalius Thomas in free agency, and find themselves looking for someone who can handle himself in coverage.

San Diego Chargers
30 S Michael Griffin Texas Sr. 6-0 205
Griffin got a bump from his Senior Bowl week as well, and gets high marks for his work in both coverage and against the run. The Chargers need help at receiver, too, so if Bowe should tumble they'd have a choice to make.

Indianapolis Colts
31 * OLB Paul Posluszny Penn State Sr. 6-2 238
If the Colts lose weakside linebacker Cato June in free agency as expected, finding his replacement becomes job one. Posluszny is an active, play-making presence who fits best on the weak side in the Colts' "Tampa 2" defensive scheme.
(* -- Depends on Super Bowl)

Chicago Bears
32 * TE Greg Olsen Miami Jr. 6-5 250
The thought is that despite Desmond Clark's fine season, the Bears still need to broaden their offensive options by giving Rex Grossman a Jeremy Shockey-type to play pitch-and-catch with. Olsen is the top-rated tight end in this year's class.
(* -- Depends on Super Bowl)

 

Moses has looked bad at the Senior Bowl.

Carriker has been a stud, as has Moore (both DEs from Nebraska). Carriker, especially, has stood out at all of the practices, whether it was 1-on-1 drills, or team up. He made himself a lot of money last week.