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Running "Half the coaches in the league are all but fired" commentary

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by magnus, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. Piper

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    It's more than just a little head scatching. He doesn't seem to have great presense or charisma. Not that successful to any degree.
    ehhh?
     
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    I'm not commanding people not to criticise it. I'm telling HB not to shit on him because of his season with the 49ers. I'm also saying not to dismiss the one factual ingredient to be included in analysis of the coach just because it doesn't agree with what you're saying.

    Dunno. Maybe I'm not seeing the crimes against nature that this guy committed. Sticking with Aaron Brooks may have been one, but as often as I can criticize him for things offensively, it's most often for the discipline-type issues that you'd figure a guy like Haslett would've been on top of, teamwide, that he never was.
     
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    A fat man says....

    Quoting Jason Whitlock http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/060112

    The leader of the league's worst offense in terms of yards and third-worst in terms of scoring is going to be named the head coach of the Green Bay Packers.


    I've been criticizing Mike McCarthy since his days as the quarterbacks coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. I could be wrong about McCarthy. He might be a real offensive genius. But what on his resume says that he should be an NFL head coach?


    The 49ers' offense he coordinated this season was a disaster. Before that, McCarthy helped Aaron Brooks put up a bunch of meaningless numbers in New Orleans.


    Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders has been begging for an NFL head coaching assignment for the last three years and has come up empty-handed. He's led some high-scoring units that move the ball up and down the field.


    McCarthy gets a job before Saunders. Are you freaking kidding me? Forgive me for saying this, but you do realize if Saunders was black, he'd be the poster child for NFL discrimination?
     
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    FWIW, not many people with the Saints were crushed to see McCarthy leave. Haslett was critical of the volume of the playbook, and they did underachieve in spots of seasons when the defense was playing at a reasonable level. So he certainly deserves some of the blame for the Saints mediocre ways.

    I do think he's an okay coach, and it's not the worst possible hire. But it's a poor move by the Packers to replace a proven winner with McCarthy. Furthermore, I think this is proof of the entire state of Wisconsin having Ted Thompson by the balls. Fire the guy who has one bad season, and keep Favre happy by hiring someone he gets along with.
     
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    If the Packers were going to hire someone without previous HC'ing experience Mike Singletary would have been a better hire than McCarthy. To me the Packers just made a fuckin' boneheaded hire.
     
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    Saints finish interview with Sherman, begin talks with Martz
    Jan. 13, 2006
    CBS SportsLine.com wire reports[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] METAIRIE, La. -- The New Orleans Saints finished a two-day interview with former Packers coach Mike Sherman on Friday, then began two days of interviews with former Rams coach Mike Martz. [/FONT]
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    Sherman is familiar with New Orleans from two years (1983-84) as offensive line coach at Tulane -- part of 16 years spent as a college assistant before becoming the Packers' tight ends-assistant offensive line coach in 1997.
    "That was my first big job and I know people down here," Sherman said. "When I was a college coach for a number of years, I used to recruit Louisiana. I know the type of people that live here, good people. I find it to be a very attractive job."
    Sherman was fired this month after Green Bay finished 4-12, its only losing record in six seasons under him. Overall, he was 57-39 and took the Packers to the playoffs each year from 2001-04, the past three as NFC North champions. He went 2-4 in the postseason.
    The Saints were the first team to interview Sherman, who said he still wants to be a head coach.
    New Orleans is seeking a replacement for Jim Haslett, whose tenure also lasted six years and bottomed out in 2005. The Saints had a .500 record overall during Haslett's first five years before finishing 3-13 this season.
    "You do everything you can to try to win football games, but I just think there comes a point where collectively as an organization you just work toward getting a winning product on the field and being accountable and honest about that product," Sherman said. "When something's not right, you try to fix it."
    Martz, fired after the Rams finished 6-10, was the fifth candidate to interview since the search began in earnest on Monday. St. Louis was 2-3 when Martz was sidelined for the final 11 games because of a heart infection. He took the Rams to the playoffs four times in his six seasons.
    The team has also interviewed Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson, Browns offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon and Cowboys assistant head coach Sean Payton.
    The Saints also have contacted Fresno State coach Pat Hill, who has interviewed with the Texans and the Rams, and have shown interest in Steelers offensive line coach Russ Grimm, who has been busy preparing for Pittsburgh's AFC divisional playoff game at Indianapolis on Sunday.
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    If I was an owner, Sherman would be at the top of my list.
     
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    I could handle Sherman. I'd rather have Sherman than, say, Mccarthy, Saunders, even Mularkey. I think Mike's descent doesn't buy him an immediate gig again. And he sold out Clements just to get his own demise a week later, so it's not like he can team up with the one guy who assisted in his two major coaching gigs.

    I'm hoping Sherman doesn't come to NO. I'm hoping they hire some dipshit goober. Not that Sherman's perfect, I just want to see NO be awful. That and they really have another throw-away season ahead of them next year, for all real purposes, and you don't want any established coach to be under that problem.


    A little surprised that Mangini is expected to get the Jets job (and might get it as soon as tomorrow), even though he's not that qualified and even though Bellichick is pleading him not to go there. I think Bill has too much emotional investment in his v/s NYJ problems, but he does have a point; more than that, I think Mangini isn't ready to be a head coach. I think he'll struggle.
    I could also make a case that NY is taking Mangini partially to screw with Bellichick.
     

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