michelle wie

I saw an interview and she seemed like a pretty normal kid.

 

Tied for 70th, not bad. She did beat a lot of good men today.

I do think that this needs to stop - women playing in men's tournaments. They just are not on the same level as PGA Tour players. Women are not long enough to compete on 7,000+ yard courses and, even if a few are, they don't have the short game to match the best men. I don't understand why people don't see this.

There's a tour for men, a tour for seniors, and a tour for women.

Why?

Because they are all on different skill levels.

I'm so sick of the PC involved with this, as I just watched SportsCenter's highlights of the tournament(Michelle Wie). Without looking at the scores, you'd think see was winning. SHE'S SEVEN SHOTS BACK!!! Why don't you show the four bogies she made, too?

Anyway, let's see how she does tomorrow.

 

can't say i really care about golf, but i don't get what the problem is.

if she can't make the cut, she can't make the cut. i suspect there are plenty of men players in the pga that will never finish in the top 10. no need to artificially limit her involvement, unless you really want to see a guy that's not as good a golfer as she is be able to play in the pga... cuz that's who would replace her.

 

there are also many men with sponsors exemptions allowing them to play

 

My main concern is that she's playing on a sponser's exemption, which are usually given to pro players who are trying to get tour status, or returning from injury. Instead, a spot is wasted by a amateur who, at best, will barely make the cut.

Personally, I wouldn't care. But for players who are actually trying to make a living, it's a big deal. For a guy who's trying to bounce back from an injury, it's a big deal. The fact that the spot is given to a 15-year-old girl who, by her own admition, is just trying to "learn from the men" is wrong.

 

sponsor's exemption? so what, the people who put up the money get to select a few folks they want playing. i guess it's their prize money, so they can ask for some ratings in return.

so how is an injured guy trying to get his game back any different from a girl trying to learn from the men? i'm sure there are lesser tourneys with smaller prizes that draw less skilled players, aren't there? why not hit those -- the ones you might actually win?

unless she's getting some unfair advantage, i don't see how it's any problem. the only people she's displacing are lesser players, right? isn't the goal to put the best players our there?

 

They can do whatever they want with the exemptions, it's their right. But many PGA Tour players are on Medical Extensions, which means they lost their tour card because of an injury the previous year. They depend on spots handed out by the sponsers. So, in effect, a PGA Tour veteran is losing an opportunity to play.

The injured guy is trying to earn money and make a living. The 15-year-old amateur doesn't win prize money. That's the big problem that I have with it.

And she doesn't need to learn from the men, she needs to learn how to win at her own level first. She couldn't even advance to the finals of the U.S. Girls Amateur. (under 18)

Yes, to a degree, but I don't see how she can be considered among the best players. She's played twice before on the PGA Tour, at her home course in Hawaii, and missed the cut both times.

 

the "so what" was actually looking for clarification, not saying "so what?" i should have put a ? at the end and not a .

so it seems to me that amateurs should really be the ones excluded here. this is a money tourney and taking up a slot that could earn somebody money shouldn't be allowed. maybe the should just add the amateurs to the mix and not remove pro players.

i think, tho, you everybody needs to realize that the people putting up the prize money aren't doing it just to be nice. they're doing it because the tourney is a revenue stream. part of the revenue comes from who's playing. if this chick is generating buzz, the guy that wins the $$ has her to thank, partially. not for him having the skill to win, but for the people throwing money at the event.

 

Not really. There have been accomplished amateur players who have won PGA Tour events. But Michelle Wie isn't an accomplished amateur player, at least not yet. She finished 2nd in an LPGA Tour tourney but, outside of that, she's done very little, even in the amateur ranks.

You are absolutly right. And a bottom-feeding tourney such as the John Deere Classic would be willing to use Wie as an attraction. But if the idea of a amateur girl playing on the PGA Tour was a valid one, she wouldn't have trouble getting into a tournament of higher esteem.

She can do whatever she wants, but I really think this is a mistake, by her and by her parents. Tiger Woods played in a PGA Tour event when he was 15. The difference between Tiger at 15 and Michelle is that Tiger was dominating at his own level, while Wie has yet to do so.

 

why do amateurs play in an event that doesn't actually pay them anything?