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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by kshead, Apr 4, 2010.

  1. magnus

    magnus Chump-proof

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    agreed. I've worried about him being unable to beat Delhomme, who was a disaster, and he hasn't beaten McCown in direct competition. I don't get it, I mean the guy's very good in real games to this point but has been bad in snaps that don't end up mattering.


    We most likely won't make a move before the draft, and I don't see us trading a 4 for a guy who theoretically doesn't start. If he's cut, all bets are off.
     
  2. The Special One

    The Special One BALL HARD UNIVERSITY

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    I dont like the idea of us giving up another draft pick for Jason Campbell. This is the main reason why I would prefer Marc Bulger.
     
  3. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Agreed.
     
  4. McJeff

    McJeff The wheel is turning

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    Makes sense to me...

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13163863/anatomy-of-deal-sold-on-qb-change-eagles-take-picks-move-on

    Anatomy of deal: Sold on QB change, Eagles take picks, move on

    April 6, 2010
    By Clark Judge
    CBSSports.com Senior Writer

    Once I couldn't fathom that Philadelphia would trade quarterback Donovan McNabb within its division. Now, I can ... at least, I can more than I did 24 hours ago.

    After consulting sources throughout the league it seems clear that what the Washington Redskins offered Philadelphia was the best deal the Eagles fielded since making it known that McNabb was for sale.

    OK, that would seem obvious. But what the Redskins understood that others did not is what it would take to convince Philadelphia to let go of McNabb. So while others balked, Washington went ahead and offered it.

    It proposed a second-round draft pick, sweetened the deal to include a potential third-rounder in 2011, then walked away with a seven-time Pro Bowl quarterback.

    Simple as that.

    In the end, there were three to four clubs involved in the bidding for McNabb. While speculation centered on the Oakland Raiders as a finalist, one AFC coach I trust told me last week that the Raiders weren't involved -- even though he acknowledged they had spoken to the Eagles.

    That hardly makes Oakland unique. The Eagles continued to speak to a number of clubs about McNabb, but Washington emerged as the frontrunner when it became aggressive -- moving ahead of the competition by making a solid offer last weekend.

    In the end, the Redskins won out on McNabb because they were the one club that was flexible. They believed it was up to them to make the Eagles an offer they couldn't refuse, and they were right.

    They tried offering Philadelphia defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, and that didn't work. They tried offering safety LaRon Landry, and that didn't work, either. So they moved on to draft picks, starting low and moving up to a second-round pick -- the 37th overall -- by Sunday.

    The rest you know.

    "To me," said one NFL general manager, "it was a win-win situation. The Redskins got what they wanted, which was a franchise quarterback, and the Eagles got what they wanted, which was fair compensation and a start with a young quarterback."

    That, of course, would be Kevin Kolb, who backed up McNabb last season and becomes the starter with McNabb's departure. Kolb last year started two games in McNabb's absence, going 1-1 and throwing for over 300 yards in each game. That experience, plus what coaches saw of the young quarterback through three years of practice, convinced them the time was right to make a change at the position.

    McNabb will turn 34 in November. He was entering the last year of his contract. He would be due an extension that the Eagles weren't going to offer. And he was liable to walk away after the 2010 season. With Kolb waiting on his chance, it made sense to make a move while the Eagles could gain fair-market value for him.

    That decision was reached some time ago, and, sources close to the club said, it was made by the entire organization. There have been reports that the idea to trade McNabb caused a fissure within the team's hierarchy, but according to numerous league sources that isn't true. As one general manager said to me, "Anyone who doesn't think Andy Reid is calling the shots there doesn't know the Eagles."

    Yes, Reid is so close to McNabb that one AFC coach described the two as "joined at the hip," but the more Reid studied his quarterbacks the more he realized a move to Kolb was in the club's best interest. McNabb had, at most, one season left with the Eagles; Kolb has a decade in front of him. And while McNabb was the best of the three quarterbacks on the Eagles' roster Sunday morning, he is not the one with the future. Kolb is.

    "We wanted to do what was best for us and what was best for him," Reid said of McNabb at Sunday's news conference.

    Read that sentence carefully. Reid mentioned the club first because what is "best" for the Eagles is what matters most here, and nobody understands better than Reid. If the club doesn't succeed, he gets fired. And while he has genuine affection for and loyalty to McNabb, Reid also understands the club comes first and that this move never gets made unless the Eagles benefit.

    Granted, a switch to Kolb might produce what one general manager called "a short-term dropoff," but the Eagles were unanimous in their decision that the move benefits the club for the long haul.

    That it was made with a team within the Eagles' division baffled me until I understood what the Eagles were looking at -- and it wasn't a seller's market. When coaches and GMs I consulted the past two weeks expressed little more than lukewarm interest in McNabb it became apparent that if Philadelphia was determined to make a trade -- which, it appears, it was -- it might have to adjust its expectations.

    And it did. When Washington understood it could have McNabb, the Redskins moved to the head of the class by pulling together a package that exceeded the competition. The Redskins understood what it would take to close the deal, but, more important, they understood that the Eagles wouldn't budge until someone hit the right note.

    So they hit it.

    Look, I'm not big on dealing stars of McNabb's magnitude within your division, but there are a couple of things to understand here: 1) The Eagles never flinch at making the tough decision, and 2) nobody knows what they have in Kolb ... or McNabb, for that matter ... better than the people who just pulled the trigger.

    This is the club that let Brian Westbrook go last month and Brian Dawkins walk last year. This is the club that cut its leading tackler, Jeremiah Trotter, in 2002 and its top wide receiver, Terrell Owens, in 2006. Trotter moved on to Washington and Owens to Dallas, and the Eagles didn't care because they believed they were better for the moves -- and they were, going 8-2 against Washington and Dallas when Trotter and Owens were on their rosters.

    So they make the tough decision once again, only this time they up the stakes by sending their starting quarterback to an opponent they face twice a year. Once again, the Eagles shrug, and here's why: Because they don't make the move if they think it hurts them. Period.

    They make it only if they think it makes them better, and we'll wait a couple of seasons on a verdict. In the meantime, all I know is that Philadelphia just made another tough decision because an unlikely trading partner did what others throughout the league could not -- meet its price.
     
  5. y2b

    y2b King of QC

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    i don't want Campbell on the Panthers, I don't want any drama connected to the Eagles & McNabb, and I don't want to give up any draft picks on a QB unless it's a pick we're using. There's other QB's out there that can back up. We all know there's not going to be a competition in camp, Moore's the starter. I just want someone capable coming off the bench if needed. My bet is we're drafting a QB in the 3rd of 4th round, if what we want is there, if not, then we'll sign a UFA that's still floating around...

    Happy for McNabb, he's a good fit for the Redskins and I hope they win the division.
     

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