Lost - The Final Season

[The Brain]

So, was the boat MiB and Jacob saw while sitting on the beach in a previous season episode the Black Rock?

BTW, Jacob beat the crap out of Ricardo but let Ben kill him? WTH?

Richard wasn't a "follower". He was there before the others. I think he truly let Ben kill him because it was necessary. Its all part of a larger plan. He HAD to die so one of the chosen would take his place.

 

[VA49er]

Richard wasn't a "follower". He was there before the others.

Yes, but didnt' Jacob mention he made the boat come to the island? Why he would destroy his statue house I have no idea.

 

[WYDD]

Richard wasn't a "follower". He was there before the others. I think he truly let Ben kill him because it was necessary. Its all part of a larger plan. He HAD to die so one of the chosen would take his place.

But Miles said that Jacob had such high hopes for Ben up until the moment before he stabbed him.

Good ol Miles, hearing dead people and shit.

 

[LarryD]

So, was the boat MiB and Jacob saw while sitting on the beach in a previous season episode the Black Rock?

BTW, Jacob beat the crap out of Ricardo but let Ben kill him? WTH?

we all assumed it was, but jacob said he's been bringing people to the island for a while -- and back then, that would mean by boat. so, it was probably one of many boats brought there by jacob.

i think jacob "let" ben kill him like obi wan "let" vader kill him.

also, as miles said, he was holding out hope until the end that ben wouldn't do it.

 

[SilverSurfer]

So the whole show is based on the island being hell, or keeping people in the real world safe from hell?? Weird stuff. I'm not sure this is the way they originally planned on ending this series. I'm thinking the ending is gonna be pretty anti-climactic.

 

[BigVito]

that guy was locke's father. in the sideways world, he's still alive. in fact, he must have conned locke into giving him his kidney since that was what lead to locke being paralyzed.

in the "real" version, sawyer was set up to kill somebody who wasn't cooper in australia. not sure if that was the same lead he got that brought him there as a cop. not that it really matters.


i've determined that the sideways version isn't meant to be taken literally. i think it's just serving the same purpose as flashbacks and flash forwards -- that is, to shed insight into the character in a way that's not revealed in the normal course of the "real time" story. the circumstances aren't necessarily important, it's what the person does in those circumstances that sheds light on their true character (which is presumably who they are even in the real world).

The sideways timeline may well be what happens not when the cork is removed but what happens when you smash the wine bottle ie. destroy the island.

 

[plutosgirl]

If Suzanne Pleshette was still living, I would be worried that Whidmore would wake up in bed with her on the last episode.

I'm terrified they're gonna make it not worth our while.

 

[WilliamJ]

If Suzanne Pleshette was still living, I would be worried that Whidmore would wake up in bed with her on the last episode.

I'm terrified they're gonna make it not worth our while.

that would be awesome!!

newhart had the best ending ever.

 

[jge1968]

that would be awesome!!

newhart had the best ending ever.

Truth.

 

[Superfluous_Nut]

I thought the guy (Cooper) just conned Locke into believing he was his father and that was how he conned him into giving him the kidney - is that not right? I know for a fact he conned him into giving it to him, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't his "real" father, because seems like I remember him telling Locke "You needed a father figure, I needed a kidney". Am I remembering that wrong? Probably not gonna matter much in the end, but that's how I remember it. Are you saying the guy Sawyer killed was NOT Cooper?? Unless I missed something, it was the same guy who conned Locke that he killed, and Locke got him to do it because he (Locke) didn't have the stomach for it.

the guy killed on the ISLAND was cooper/sawyer (locke's father). the guy he was sent to kill in australia wasn't "sawyer" (dunno if he knew the cooper name yet).

cooper couldn't con just anybody into giving him a kidney cuz he needed a proper match. who better than a son? besides, the whole reason locke was told to kill cooper on the island was because he was his father, so i think we can assume it cooper was indeed locke's father.

the "you needed a father figure" was probably just a matter of how cooper conned him -- ie, he stepped in as such a figure to gain his confidence.