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Jamison to the Mavs

Discussion in 'Charlotte Hornets' started by UNCfever, Aug 16, 2003.

  1. SincereNCinMD

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    So you rather have SUPER CLUTCH Van Exel over Jamison? I don't get what you trying to say...every players have negatives in their game. Van Exel cluctch shooting will get him nowhere in Oakland.
     
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    VE, has his limitation as well as does Jamison. Not sure that Van ever played much D either. I just think Jamison is a little more value, sure the Mavs will be able to score with the best of them and must agree you need some D somewhere.

    Will be interesting to see how this works out. At least now I may want to watch the team Jamison plays for.
     
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    Jamison is worth a lot more considering his skill level and age
     
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    kshead What's the spread?

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    Long term? And if the contract/salary were not a consideration? Of course I'd rather have Jamison.

    But I'll bet come THIS upcoming June when Jamison looks like a deer in headlights and another team's second team guard is outscoring the Mavs second team guard by about 20 then Van Exel would look a hell of a lot better in a Mavs uniform than he will sitting on a beach somewhere. Now two or three Junes from now? Sure, that may be a different story. But Van Exel was a nice little luxury to have in the situation I described above - even if he is an asshole who will most likely be a malcontent in GS. If you are going to unload the dude, get what you need in return.

    Some dude wrote in an article at either ESPN or CNNSI asked a question that bears repeating: What the hell use does Dallas have for a max contract guy as their FOURTH scoring option? On a team that needed ANYthing other than another scorer? Unless they are planning on making another move it's just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. No matter how big a steal it was on paper.
     
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    Jamison at SF gives Dallas the opportunity to put Finley at SG. Cuban is being burnt by giving max deals to everyone - he has the $ to cover the luxury tax. Who else can Dallas deal?

    I was surprised that Dallas didn't try to get Foyle or Dampier in the deal - but neither is that tough, and both have had injury issues. If Fortson's head is on right, he can help on the boards. LaFrentz isn't a tough inside player, either.

    Dallas is a "blend" of players, not really a team yet IMO. VE is a timebomb mentally - I was surprised he was comparatively sane with the Mavs.
     
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    I see another Portland team :rolleyes:
     
  7. UNCfever

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    Yeah, just not sure where the VE bandwagon came from. Sure he had one positive stretch last year and he can score.

    Well Jamison can do that as well, like I said before, this makes Dallas better.

    Can they win it all now? I doubt it, but outside of LA (timebomb waiting to happen) and SA, it's a complete toss-up out there.
     
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    Another team's second team guard? Who gives a damn about a 2nd team guard? Van Exel can't do anything for them because he's NOT a big man. Plus if Chris Webber didn't get hurt they would of got eliminated by the Kings again.
     
  9. kshead

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    Well, I'll agree with you about Webber.

    All I can say to you and the rest of the UNC folks is this:

    Y'all feel free to spend all your time admiring those UNC folks in the NBA who - with the exception of Jordan - don't seem to be playing much in the playoffs as the years go by. Somehow I get the idea that this is why you guys keep defending Jamison since he hasn't won anything and Van Exel pretty much carried the Mavs through the playoffs. It's the NBA. No one gives a shit what you do if it ain't in the playoffs. Maybe since the UNC guys were on the sidelines for the most part y'all quit watching or something. I dunno. But if you saw the Mavs in the playoffs, you know what I mean. That's why I called Van Exel CLUTCH. He was for the Lakers and he was for the Mavs.

    Yes, I realize Van Exel is a role player. He's also a much cheaper role player than Jamison who - I shall remind you once again - has won exactly zero playoff games in his illustrious career yet makes enough money to fill a Brinks truck for some reason. Next year if the Mavs win the title and Jamison is the MVP, then feel free to tell me how wrong I was. Til then we are all speculating. I'm at least speculating on the guy who has won something.

    But my entire point is that if the Mavs are too stupid to trade Van Exel for what they REALLY need - a big man - they should've at least not traded him for someone who won't be any more help in the playoffs AND makes more money. That's just as stupid if we are talking about role players. And there's no way Jamison will be asked to carry any kind of load in Dallas that I can see.
     
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    Well I will admit we didn't have a player on the Championship team this last year, guess it's about time things catch up with us for a year.

    But will still had a few players in the playoffs, which I don't know many colleges that can boast as many.

    McInnie, Wallace, Fox, Lynch and Davis all were there this past year. Pretty sure Fox has won a few championships recently. Let's jump on that ABC bandwagon the one year they don't have a player in the championship series.

    AJ is a better player than VE plain and simple and has more upside. I don't think anybody is claiming him to be the greatest or the answer to all of the Mavs problems.

    I am sure VE is the reason the Mavs made it to the playoffs and won every game they did last year.:rolleyes:

    I am sure Nowitzki, Finley and Nash had nothing to do with that. If I remember correctly DN was hurt the last 3 games in that series so sure somebody needs to step up and score.
     

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