How many times we blitzed

So, it seems what you and Collin are saying is that it all boils down to Trgovac and his lack of coaching skills. Inconsistancy seems to be our M. O. Would most agree that part of it is Trgo and part is our guys? Maybe I'm just seeing things wrong, but that's how I see it. Like you pointed out in another thread, I remarked that the cushion is killing us and Gamble not playing up contributes. That, to me, reaffirms what I was saying about part of the problem is Trgo and the other part is our players.

 

I don't think that's it at all.

That might be what you're saying, but not us.
Coaches can tell Gamble to play up a little more, but he's obviously comfortable back there, and that's what's hurting us. Him not executing well enough, that's on him. Coaches ultimately are responsible for the product, sure. But if Chrs Gamble can play better than that, then he needs to. And he can.

Trgo's not blameless. He's in charge. But where Trgo gets blamed, you naturally must blame Fox. It's his scheme, his calls. You know that when a team suddenly decides not to pressure the QB that much anymore, that it comes from above. If it didn't, and it was wrong, I would rightly expect to have Fox overrule.

But I'd have to say that there haven't been many times where you can actually say playcalling hurt us. Personally, I think Gamble's been a huge sore spot for this D, more than the safeties even, whether it be Lucas or Manning across from him. Overall, the D has had some intensity letdowns, and more than that, has had execution letdowns. We've worked on the things that have hurt us (bad tackling, for instance, improved last week). That's coaching. Having a defense ready for the tackle-eligible, that's coaching. Chris Gamble playing back and being scared, the only place I could fault Trgo for? Maybe Gamble needed replaced for a series. Try it out, and see if Manning can hang it.

 

What gave you that idea? Could it be all the times we've said that IT IS NOT TRGOVAC'S FAULT?


I hope you were just fucking with me, because the two alternatives are less excusable.

 

See, it would be debatable if the opposing offenses WERE using nothing but three step drops, but its a load of horseshit. THey dont. And coming from Mike Minter, means almost nothing. Hes the PR puppet player of the team, has been for years.


To even say that publicly as an excuse, embarrasses me. And you CAN blitz a three step drop, lol!!! The "three step drop" play isnt something that negates a blitz, lol, WCOs have largely in the past been blitzed to disrupt timing, ect., and to suggest its blitz proof DID make me spit out my cornflakes this morning.

In a blitz you always run the risk of a big play. THats understood. And for the record, I want better pass coverage as well, and realize its as big a problem as the DL getting off their blocks. THere is NO QUESTION if we executed perfectly on every play wed be a much better defense. 31 other teams probably agree with that sentiment, that none of what they do is flawed, because theyre only not executing better.

Im just a bit shocked that the team has created a three step drop myth now. Its really a moot point, because were getting ready to head into a game where the quarterback doesnt exclusively use the three step drop, lol, and well see how our defense responds to letting GB back into the game, and how this team responds as a whole, from a two sided football game. Im not going to engage in a giant debate whether teams are three step dropping us the whole game, but I will say this. After watching the GB game, Favre, who plays in a scheme that utilizes as many three step drops as anyone, threw a TD pass off of a five step drop, when he patted the ball a few times, and went through his progression.

The three step drop Myth created by the Panthers, and being pushes by PR puppet Minter has got to be one of tne funniest, and saddest things Ive seen from this club. Its not grown too big yet. I hope it stays where it was, as just an excuse being thrown out from our DC and coach's pets.

 

This is why Im not exclusively blaming Trgo, like some others are. Gamble has been a blatant weak link, and the offenses are attacking. And there are a few other players who need to start living up to their potential.

 

New rules have hurt Manning and I fully expect to see him toasted at least once today, BUT we know that he can have a nose for the ball (playoffs) and just maybe this is his day. Just never know.

 

Jeez, imagine if we had not signed Lucas in the offseason. Ouch.

 

I kinda think we didn't correct this.

 

well, we're blitzing and that's what people wanted, so, sure.

 

Then get ready to spit them out again, because there is no question that you're 100% wrong on this one. Blitzing against the three step drop is monumentally stupid because it opens up immediate holes in coverage, and you're not going to have much time to reach the QB. If the O-line holds up inside and your QB can take some punishment after delivering the ball, a blitz should absolutely never reach a QB on a three step drop. The outside men may come clean, but the ball will be out before they get there. And that's only if you blitz well, which we don't.