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How do we get our run game going?

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Thelt, Oct 18, 2005.

  1. Fan. Attic

    Fan. Attic Upstairs Lurker

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    Never mind the run game, how do we get the coin-toss game going? 0-for-the-season so far. :1peekdoor
     
  2. Thelt

    Thelt Full Access Member

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    I guess you guys assume that we all read every post under every thread on here. I have not read a whole lot about our running problems on here, not threads dedicated to it. If there are two thousand out there I must have just missed them.

    Since this is a wasted thread anyway why dont you and Mags try having another pissing contest, we need more of those around here and less threads that actually talk about the team......
     
  3. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    Or we could talk about how a Chinese family locked their daughter in a cage until she was fourteen and she didn't evolve at all. The Chinese government is trying to suppress the information because it doesn't want IDers to realize that this evolution crap is all a bunch of nonsense, but now the truth has been discovered on an internet message board!
    :woohoo:
     
  4. y2b

    y2b King of QC

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    I think better run blocking
     
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    I don't know if this theory has merit, but I heard that one of our opponents said that we only ran about 8 different run plays for S Davis per game.

    Could it be that our run package/play selection is so obvious the defense just knows where to go? That could be making the task of clearing out inside lanes more difficult.

    Probably that and S Davis is a bit timid reading/hitting the holes. Taking a year off has screwed up his timing.

    That said, if we don't have a hundred yard rusher in the Minnesota game, I am for subbing Mathis for Reyes for Tampa, then Hangartner for Mitchell next.
     
  6. mathmajors

    mathmajors Roll Wave

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    Run the ball more
     
  7. Thelt

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    I posted that in the appropriate forum and discussed it logically. If you do not care for that then stay out of the thread.
     
  8. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    In you bra.
     
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    Inability to run like before has offense out of whack

    By Darin Gantt The Herald
    (Published October 19‚ 2005)

    CHARLOTTE -- The problem isn't necessarily with Jake Delhomme. The problem isn't that they don't have enough good receivers. The problem doesn't appear to be coaching.

    The problem with the Carolina Panthers' offense is as much philosophical as technical.

    They can't run the way they used to, the way they expected to or the way they have to.

    That's got every other element of their offense -- the entire game, really -- thrown out of whack.

    The Panthers are dead last in the 32-team NFL in yards per rushing attempt, at 3.1 yards. Do some quick multiplication. Three of 'em would leave you about two feet short of a first down, and that's a fourth down John Fox won't go for again after it blew up on him in Detroit. At 0-for-1, they're now tied for last in the league in that category, too.

    The Panthers are tied for 21st in the league in rushing first downs, getting 25 and none last week in Detroit.

    That the Panthers rank 21st in rushing yards per game is testament to will rather than skill. They're going to keep grinding, whether it's getting them anywhere or not.

    And it most certainly is not.

    The easiest thing to do would be to suggest Stephen Davis is used up, that asking a 31-year-old coming off major invasive knee surgery less than a year ago to carry the load was unfair.

    There may still be an element of truth to that.

    The problem is much greater, much more involved and includes nearly everyone on offense.

    The issue starts up front but doesn't reside there; it has many homes.

    The offensive line has yet to provide consistent rushing lanes. That puts the Panthers in obvious passing situations. Since the protection has been less than stellar, that means keeping backs and tight ends out of the pattern to block.

    That reduces the number of targets, which reduces the number of opponents who have to devote themselves to coverage.

    That means more eight-man fronts, which makes it easier to pressure Delhomme into bad throws and prevents the Panthers from opening running lanes.

    The ugly cycle continues to roll, and until the Panthers can line up, knock someone off the ball and Davis can plow ahead for 5 or 6 yards on a consistent basis, it won't change.

    It's hard to tell if he'll be able to.

    When DeShaun Foster returned from the same surgery in 2003, it was November or December before he ran strongly. Whether the spring returns more quickly to the legs of a 23-year-old than a 31-year-old remains to be seen.

    Davis has far too much pride to concede he's done, and he may not be. He's popped a few this season which indicate some juice remains in those sprinter's legs.

    He'd probably like to punch Rod Gardner for a holding penalty Sunday that took a 21-yard burst off the board, replacing it with an 8. But even if you add the 13 yards to Davis' day, he'd have averaged just 3.1 per carry instead of 2.1.

    That's still not enough.

    Beyond simply gaining yards and keeping the clock moving and keeping the defense off the field, the inability to run can erode a team's confidence.

    Fox always says the reason he loves to run is because that's where a team establishes its toughness.

    What have the Panthers established so far?

    Not nearly enough.

    It's a problem you can cover up early. In October, your offense can consist of heaving it to Steve Smith and hoping. When the days get shorter and the games get more difficult, they're going to need to be able to pound somebody up front.

    They've shown little indication they can.

    Until they do, they'll continue to be an enigma, mostly to themselves.

    When things go wrong, you fall back on the one thing you know you're good at, you run the one play you know you can convert.

    When the Panthers look for that play now, they can only hope Smith's not double-covered deep. Because it's impossible for them to believe they're getting it on the ground.

    http://www.buzzfans.com/sports/football/panthers/story/5266801p-4780762c.html
     

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