Hindsight on the 2010 roster moves

Jan-April, everyone was freaking out about the defense. Losing Pepp, Brayton for a time, Kemo, Thomas, Diggs, and Lewis was the story.

Moore played admirably the last several games. Not pro bowl, although he had a misleading passer rating, but admirably. We're fielding much the same team this year as we did those final games - sans Moose, (now Jarrett), Hoover, and Vincent.

Everyone expected a continuation of the dominant running game and efficient play from matt Moore. Everyone worried the defense would cause the problems.

So - in hindsight - the roster moves on defense worked out quite well. Young guys are getting their time and playing solid. Leadership and depth are there - Beason and Connor are great examples. In the case of the Defense - the philosophy of the front office has actually worked very well - despite the roster purge. I do not miss Harris, Kemo, Lewis, Diggs, or Thomas. Hardy and Pugh are a couple of promising rookies - all drafted late after we went balls deep on offensive youngsters early.

I'd guess Fox/Hurney thought as we did - that Moore would continue his efficient play, we'd have some speedy young talent to replace the older vets, and the defense would stay the course ( as it has ). Offensively, however, Moore's failures have left us with an 'avalanche' of problems. There are no veterans to boost morale - not just of the young QBs, but of EVERYONE in the offensive huddle. No fire from hoover and Moose who'd seen Jake make comebacks after sucking, No Jake on the sidelines being a great vet presence for Matt, nobody in that huddle except Touchdown Jesus and his Jeff lewis like inability to execute a snap.

The front office, and Fox, strayed from everything they've always stuck to - vet presence in the QB position. Why? It wouldn't have cost that much, so i dont see that. Peete was cheap. This is a team that called on Rodney fuckin Peete and Vinny testaverde when times were tough.

Of all the roster moves, none of them has fucked us - really at all - except for the lack of a strong veteran presence at QB, something they'd ALWAYS done, to the point of deep criticism for not drafting young guy to groom.

It's really strange that they built the roster with no vet at QB - really strange.

 

A veteran QB would have been nice. I don't think he'd drop 3 snaps a game, and bail after his first read. But there's a good chance a Shaun Hill would be crumpled up with this line and these recievers.

We miss a veteran reciever just as much as having inexperience at QB. And inexpereience at offensive line. Missing Otah hurts, but we went with youth at guard too.

 

the above sums it up. This offense is way too bad to suffer from just one or two problems. There are a bunch of pieces missing from the puzzle and it's not a quick fix situation like it may have been in the past. I'm kinda rooting for no NFL season next year so there will be more time and more opportunities to straighten out this big ugly fruckin mess

 

I think they (Fox and Hurney) thought they had drafted well enough, and developed a "solid core" of young talent that they could be competitive. they did not, the Panthers are not.

I don't think any of the releases individually hurt, but collectively, all at once, it killed them.

 

If we had traded for McNabb and Boldin then this team would be a whole lot better. Not having Otah hurts but no one knew he had his left leg bitten off by a shark in the offseason.

A veteran QB would be nice. I suspect we would have won a couple of games by now with a decent veteran QB. I generally agree with the first post. The defense is playing pretty good, better than I feared it would. The offense has fallen off a cliff with Matt Moore.

 

Defense is fine
Otah hurts us big time

but at least we don't have
http://www.sbnation.com/fantasy/201...anages-two-interceptions-in-replacing-wallace

 

On a side note I guess we see why Sam Bradford went number one overall and Clausen dropped to the second round. It is not like Bradford has anything to work with either.

 

Who did we collectively lose on offense that anyone here thought would kill us?

From the dominant offense of last December we lost Moose. Vincent and Otah were out, Hoover was limited.

I really think it's less 'players' than leadership. There's nobody to look to for guidance on the entire offensive squad. Delhomme, Moose, Hoover. Those were your guys to turn to in tough times. We've got nobody.

Remember how much williams said he learned from testaverde?

I just can't figure out why. Mark Brunell didn't cost much.

 

Losing the aging, maligned Moose does hurt, or rather, not replacing him well. Moose at least knew how to be a pro. His old ass would be in the right spot, running professional routes.

 

Piper - agree. Still - who'd have thought it would tank THIS badly? We have not thrown for 200 yards, have not had a hundred yard rusher.

It HAS to be the lack of leadership in the offensive huddle and locker room. All other factors are unchanged.

And the FUCKING PENALTIES.

I think there was some circa 2001 seifert stubborn-ness. Cutting b-line to play 'your' guy, they didn't want a veteran option to 'their' new young guy(s), be it Moore, Jarrett, Fiametta, Bernadeau. I just don't think they thought it would bite them this hard.

And as for oline depth, I'm not buying the neglect there. People have said it for three years, and this line ( this exact group! ) played great ball last december.

Something happened, and it happened to their collective mental state.