Free Agency

2003 doesn't happen if 2002 doesn't have some continuity. I mean, it's different in this case thanks to the CBA, in that more guys would be locked down right now.

you could also argue that we're less risky getting our own guys back. We'll be fine without many of these guys, too, but the contributing factors aren't FAs in many cases.

 

whoa. Thelt has an avatar.

 

As for a vet QB I'm actually fine with Moore filling that role, but from what all the reporters say there is no shot he will be back. It might be better for him long term to find a new spot. He still has potential. The SF game last year was the only game where we had a semblance of a passing attack.

As for DT, Mebane is name that's thrown out alot and I agree he would fit in nicely. Two other names I like are Barry Cofield and Tommie Harris. Cofield is young and productive, but not sure if he leaves NY. Harris has had lots of injuries but he'd be a nice bridge to the future. He'd probably be able to be had at a reasonable price. I see him fitting in better in New Orleans, and obviously they are the more attractive team for someone in his situation.

 

I have had them turned off for a long time so I sort of forgot about them. I check this board at work sometimes and some avatars are "questionable". I have pics turned off too for the same reason.

 

gantt is hung up on Bulger, as if there aren't a lot of teams on him already.
I don't know - whoever it is, isn't going to play much. A guy like him is ideal - former starter, experience in our O. But he himself will command more money, possibly as a short term starter.

 

Please stop saying that because you have been corrected over and over and over again. The team went 2-14 because it was awful all over the place. Clausen stunk, but Mark Sanchez was almost as bad during his rookie season. Last season the TEs, WRs, OL, and DTs were all terrible, while no one except Johnson and Anderson were "great." I'm all for bringing guys back if the price is right, but you have got to stop pretending that this team was great aside from the quarterback or you're going to give me an aneurysm.

You're preaching to the choir, as I'm the guy who keeps pointing out that QB peaks later than any other position in the NFL. I'm the one who believes that all quarterbacks should ride the bench for their first two or three seasons while having their own dedicated coach to work with them on awareness and technique. But what I want and reality have never really been that similar.

For some reason I thought Cofield was a lot older than he actually is.

 

Looks like it all could start this afternoon. If I'm reading it right, we get three days to sign our own free agents and other teams can "talk" to them? Shits confusing

 

ESPN indicated that teams will have one day to sign their own free agents, then anyone can make offers for them.

 

Dude, do some research or reading or something instead of just repeating the same inaccurate shit that the media and other fans do. Here, i'll give you something to read. Its a nice piece, a bit long, and I don't agree with every bit of it but it is informative.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/spo...2011/02/draft_winds_a_thorough_breakdo_1.html

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Style (the myth of the ‘run-first’ quarterback)

Cam Newton has another stigma associated with him that he can’t seem to shake. Some people like to consider him a ‘run-first’ quarterback. They might use the term ‘running’ quarterback, or any number of designations meant to convey the point that Newton is one of a long line of option quarterbacks at the college level that were glorified running backs and lack the passing skills to compete at the next level.

Miami Dol-Fans have some not-so-pleasant experience with that kind of quarterback in Pat White, drafted in the 2nd round on the promise that he could serve as the lead man in the Dolphins’ Wildcat 2.0 attack, while simultaneously training on his passing skills to where he could compete for the right to be considered a true franchise starter. Those that are quick to label a player this way are often firm in belief that the odds are stacked against this kind of player because his instincts tell them to bail on the play too quickly. While they are adamant that this kind of player cannot succeed, they are often short on definitions or methodology for determining if a quarterback is run-first.

Rather than settle for their Potter Stewart-esque explanations (“I know it when I see it”), we at Universal Draft have chosen to rely on facts and figures, isolating details rather than buying vagaries. The natural and undeniable conclusion is that nobody should accuse Cameron Newton of being a ‘run-first’ quarterback, or a glorified running back, or anything of the kind. The fact of the matter is we have isolated every single snap (both pass and run) of Cam Newton’s over his final six games against Ole Miss, Chattanooga, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina and Oregon. What we found is that Newton only scrambled for yardage on a total of 15 of 169 pass snaps. The other 80 or so runs were called as run plays from the sidelines. The rate (just under 9%) at which Newton pulled down the ball and ran for yardage rather than continuing to try and pass the ball, was comparable with the rate at which Aaron Rodgers did the same (just under 8%) for the Green Bay Packers during the 2010 regular season, according to Pro Football Focus.

Of course, there’s more than that. Cynics may reply that a ‘run-first’ guy may still ultimately pass the ball but he is far too quick to give up on the pocket and begin scrambling around to try and make something happened. This would naturally mean that a large percentage of Newton’s throws came while scrambling around and making something happen. However, according to our research, only about 1 in 5 of Newton’s pass attempts during those final six games came under these conditions. Again according to Pro Football Focus, Aaron Rodgers threw a little over 1 in 5 of his pass attempts while ‘Under Pressure’.

The reality is that when Cam Newton was being recruited out of Westlake High School, he had to dispel scouts of the complete opposite notion, that he was just a pure pocket passer that didn’t use his feet to hurt teams. Here is a quote dated March 22nd, 2006 in a report about Newton’s recruiting prospects:

Some have labeled Newton as a pure pocket passer but he is quick to discard that assessment. “I used to just sit back in the pocket but now with defensive ends running 4.6 forty’s you have to be able to move around and make plays with your feet," he said. “Now, I consider myself a guy who can run and pass. I really like to sit back and throw the ball but if you give me some space I’ll tuck it and run.”

Consider another quote from a Recruiting Editor for TigerSportsDigest.com, dated May 2, 2006:
Newton, a 6-5, 220-pounder out of Atlanta (Ga.) Westlake, surprised nearly everyone in attendance when he posted a 4.51 in the 40-yard dash.

Everyone was well aware that he had a big league arm that could make all of the throws, but bringing his speed down from a 4.8 to a 4.5 makes him all the more dangerous when things break down in the pocket.

The fact that Newton had to go out of his way to dispel recruiters of the notion that he was just a pure pocket passer is not terribly shocking, if you’ve tracked what Newton did at Westlake High, where they ran the option “maybe twice a game” according to Cam back in 2006.

Additionally, if one were to study what Newton did at Blinn College, they would find a player that was not asked to run the ball as often as at Auburn. As Cecil Newton put it in discussing why they chose Blinn College, “He's going to get to take some snaps from under center out there at Blinn and the coaching staff there is well versed in a pro style scheme.”

 

Not to start anything but whats the difference in one persons opinion based upon one media outlet and the one you choose to make your point?

Here's hoping Newton isn't a bust