fantasy question: where did the pass rush go?

ROFL, okay. I covered "deeper than the deepest man" already. If he had the zone underneath, then he had the zone underneath. Since I stated I wasn't certain what his responsibility was on the play, there's absolutely no reason for you to be a dick. It has nothing to do with "being an ass". I'm glad to see that you can't handle disagreement without pretending that I have some agenda because you're mad. Every time I say something you don't like, you suggest I'm just trying to anger you, which is neither correct nor really necessary. It reflects poorly on you. And it might work against some people, but in the end calling every single person who disagrees with you some form of the "idiot" insult just weakens it.

If Minter over-ran, he over-ran. Doesn't mean that Branch wasn't in place to make the play. He was. And he screwed up. He was in position to make the play and not only didn't, but didn't make the tackle, the hit, or anything else. If you want to absolve him of it, that's great. To me, I see a DB on a receiver and he misses the play and the tackle. That Minter over-ran, that Marshall over-ran, doesn't mean that Branch did something good.

of course, that's just my opinion. If you believe that Branch was in position to make the play, that he was in zone and that Colston was there as well, and that Branch neither made the play, nor the tackle, and that it's not his fault at all, I can be allright with that. Won't understand it, but I'll be allright with that.

 

I didn't absolve him, and I've been very clear about that. You suggesting I am is you being a dick, as usual. You did not admit that this:

or this:

was wrong. To be perfectly clear, it would be helpful if you would admit that you were wrong about those assumptions.

 

Well, you did say "I don't even know how much Branch was at fault.". You've also gone pretty hard into getting angry about me saying that Branch was at fault, so maybe you should clarify that you do feel Branch was at fault for things regardless of Minter or Marshall.

Or you stated something that you didn't communicate well. You always seem to suggest that I'm looking to make you mad, when I never am. I'm just not going to tiptoe around you because you fuss at me every time I say something you might not like. All that does is muddy conversation and make people stop listening. It doesn't affect me, and it makes you look kinda whiny.

actually, yes I did. I said I didn't know for certain. If you want "I guess I was wrong because you told me I was wrong", I can give you that, too. But it was his zone, and there was a player there he's gotta cover.

 

I was fairly straightforward when I said "Branch still should have made sure he had the tackle and not gone for the ball."

No, you didn't. Just humor me and say "I was wrong about Branch needing to be deeper than the deepest man on that play."

Actually what you said was, "actually, I don't know for certain whether he was supposed to be deeper. I assume he was, but not knowing his responsibility, I'm just guessing. To me, he was out of position." So even then you were still saying that he was out of position, which was wrong. Please just say, "I was wrong." That seems an extraordinarily difficult statement for you to make for some reason, and always has been, even when definitive visual proof shows that you were wrong.

 

Sure. I was apparently wrong. It's not that difficult at all for me to say, because the discussion is more imporant than dropping the discussion to try to "force" someone to say something I'm willingly glad to say. If Branch was underneath, he was underneath. Was he in position?
However, was this zone, to have Minter supposedly that far deeper? He's not. You have tape, and my DVR cuts off before the score.