Draft game with a new list

What do you guys think of Croyle? At 88/89?

Just curious.

 

I don't think a whole lot of Croyle at all, if he were 6'4 with his skills I might think more of him, but I favor the proto-typical QB types. Anything under 6'3, I tend to shy away from.

He's got more guts than talent.

 

mine before I pick on Collin for picking a QB we don't need for the 3rd year in a row

27.

Wow. How awful - and somewhat depressing. I like Bullocks, but he's nowhere near deserving of this; in the mythical draft board that doesn't actually exist yet (or isn't complete), Addai is higher than Maroney, and there's also Ryans, then I guess Joseph. A TE is legitimately reasonable here compared to the above (I have Pope higher than the above).

I guess I take Joseph in the same begrudged manner that others took White. I could live with Maroney in the end, would rather have Addai. Since both are there I'm (theoretically) hoping for something else later.

58. Anthony Fasano, TE - Came very close to taking Harper at S, just because of the run, even if he's a little high there. Since literally tons of DBs have gone, if you're to get one, you get one. But Fasano does fit, and there aren't backs there. And I can't find a use for another high lineman.


88. Anthony Smith, S
89. Will Blackmon, CB


Smith is almost all that's left at S, though Hudson is a little more physical in run support (and had a little more size). There's always Pollard, but he's lumbering and not as good as you might want in coverage.
For CB coverage, I'd as well choose Zemaitis, who would also make the better S should it ever come to that. Blackmon's almost as good, fits the former-WR mold of our starters, and there's the return thing. Almost went for Norwood or Lundy here, but Lundy and Blackmon together don't work - duplicity at returns; Norwood is an awful blocker and a thin back overall.

121. Wali Lundy, RB

I could've guessed that Lundy would be here and gone with Zemaitis, but to go back and correct it would be kinda cheating. Lundy being here is too good to pass up IMO. Good hands, nice size, good speed, and yeah, able to be a blocker right now. Two PR and two KR? Kinda neat, really. No one has that return depth. Makes it far less likely that we try it, but that's not what this is about (though I'd have drafted Pope if that were totally true).

155. Joe Toledo, OT
Plackemeier would be kinda neat, and Harrison, Moore, Day all make sense other than that players have been picked at those positions. Toledo isn't all that, but here, he provides depth. Enough, anyway.


Our 7ths don't matter (how'd we get two, again?), but here goes:
234. Paul Pinegar, QB
237. Will Derting, OLB
The traditional PS QB and the traditional hard-working, tough, short, injured OLB. Neither will be the "next Moose", but anything better than "the next Walter Young" is a big bonus.

 

Simply not a need.
And (somewhat pointed at Collin) I'd rather reach a round, even two for a RB than take a QB.

 

27. OLB - Thomas Howard
-No question he's a bit of a reach, but with the group that's left, I like his upside.

58. TE - Anthony Fasano
-He'll be wasted, but not bad value with this pick.

88. S - Bernard Pollard

89. QB - Brodie Croyle

121. CB - Devin Hester
-Return specialist that can be groomed into a solid corner.

155. P - Ryan Plackemeier
- Not necessary, but the kids talented. And this late in the draft doesn't hurt.

234. DE - Jason Hatcher

237. RB - Wendell Mathis

 

Clements looked sharp at the combine. Threw a pretty out route. Seems to have the attitude to make it in the NFL. I just don't see that as a viable choice that soon, when you have JD, just re-signed Weinke and just drafted LeFors.

 

27 Ko Simpson FS
58 Daryn Colledge OT
88 Jerious Norwood RB
89 Will Blackmon CB/KR
121 Kevin Boothe G
155 David Thomas TE
234 Brandon Johnson OLB
237 Johnny Jolley DT

 

The more I think about it, the more I realize that most of this RB crop sucks balls. Everyone after the first round is limited, and with 3 RBs already on the roster who should be at least decent when used, adding another generic guy to that mix isn't going to help anything. If we don't add someone like Williams, White, or Maroney at #27 who we think can take the starting job and run with it, there isn't a whole lot of reason to grab someone in the middle rounds just to make him our #4 RB. So in that sense, I don't see how drafting a #4 RB is any more reasonable than drafting a #3 QB.

Someone like Clemens could sit behind Jake and theoretically be our backup as soon as next season. If he doesn't bust, at minimum we'd have a guy who could cover our asses and at best we might have a guy who can take over for Jake in a couple of years or even bring some high draft picks in a later trade.

 

We played the "we might trade this guy" deal with Weinke for years. He's not going anywhere, and this team has its 3rd. It's okay to love Clemens, but a pick before the 5th for a 3rd string QB is too much unless it's something absurd like Cutler falling to the 3rd :imagestor


either way, the RB crop isn't great. But we really do need one, and that's why I'd rather take horrible RB value than a QB we just flat out don't need.

 

Not we. I never thought anyone would trade for Weinke. He was old and already limited as a quarterback when we drafted him. Clemens is a much, much better prospect.

That's just a flat out dumb thing to say. Every year several QBs are drafted in rounds 2-4 and slated as that team's 3rd QB, at least for that first season. That's where you draft developmental QBs. You almost never get someone worth a damn in the 5th or later.

No, we don't. I already corrected you about this. Our RB depth is superior to that of most teams. We have injury-prone Foster, but also a second round pick in Shelton, and a guy in Goings who has proven capable of soaking up a lot of carries if necessary. Getting someone starter-worthy would be worthwhile simply because it would be an upgrade, but we absolutely do not need a RB just for depth. We have more than most teams already. As I said, drafting a 3rd QB is no less reasonable than drafting a 4th RB.