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Dontari Poe

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Normanator, Feb 27, 2012.

  1. The Brain

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    It would be easier to keep Hardy outside. Let Coples start and move HIM inside on some passing downs. He did play DT a full year his Junior year.
     
  2. finleye

    finleye como say what?

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    well, I think Hurney and the rest of the FO better be ready for anything come draft day, cause the trades could start flying with teams getting more used to valuating them. Teams may end being more aggressive in pursuing players they have targeted and value highly. Its a common complaint I hear about, of all things, in fantasy football drafts. Some fantasy nerds hate the draft process because it often times precludes them from getting certain players they value highly above most others. These guys advocate auction drafts.

    The unique features of the 2012 draft, with St Louis sitting in the catbird seat of the RGII sweepstakes, magnifies it to an extent, but going forward I would expect to see the NFL draft develop more of an 'auction' feel than before. And it would move even farther in that direction if the NFL adopted some of the rules that the NBA uses, which lets teams trade & protect picks up to 5 years in the future, though I doubt that will ever happen, and lets hope for Hunery's sake it doesnt.

    Gotta admit I'm not too worried about Rivera being prepared, but can only hope our front office is ready to take advantage of this new phase of draft process. We're clearly not where we want to be yet, and while we seem to be on the way up, it will be critical that the staff hammers home in year 2 what the vision of the teams future is on both sides of the ball. Cant take a step back on offense, and the defense has to get up to par. simple as that.
     
  3. finleye

    finleye como say what?

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    Coples' has good well-rounded background, actually. Played strongside end for his first two years as the backup to EJ Wilson, who was drafted by Seattle and is now in Tampa Bay. Then was set the start at the SSDE spot up until everybody got suspended two years ago this august. They moved him inside to the 3 -technique because we had better depth at end than we did at tackle. He figured it out over the course of the season and was dominating by the end. His senior year was obviously not what everybody expected, even UNC fans will you tell that. But I wouldnt write him off as a slacker just yet. As far as we could tell from the outside, Coples was a model soldier up until this year. He'd previously worked hard, progressed well, did and said all the right things. Donte Paige-Moss, who was as talented if not moreso than Coples, caused much more concern than Coples ever did.

    A whole lotta shit went down behind the scenes at Carolina the last 2 years, most of which hasnt even come out yet apparently, and while Coples and the rest of the gang might be at fault for some of the losses that incurred on the field over that span, its also reasonable to argue that it was a situation they didnt fully deserve and it certainly effected their play. This time of year often makes people hyper aware of the issues of certain players, and its often overblown. I think Coples is another example of that. His attitude isnt as bad people think, but he is also probably a notch below Robert Quinn as a DE prospect. The bonus, imo, is his versatility.
     
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    I don't think you saw enough of him at LSU because he's absolutely not a run stuffer by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, the reason I don't like him at DT is that he freelances and isn't very good at holding the point. Meanwhile he was pretty darn good at rushing the passer and penetrating on run plays because he uses his hands well to keep blockers at length. I think his skill set and tendencies play a lot better at DE, although I grant that you guys have a point regarding concerns about a lack of explosiveness. If it was just a bad 40 time that would be one thing, but he shit the bed in 3 cone and all the other drills too. Hell, at this point it's not out of the question that he might fall to Carolina's second round pick, although I still think that's unlikely.

    Again, I can't agree there because I do not like him at DT period. He's just not a point of attack guy. I see him as a much better version of McClain. Frankly, I don't understand why Josh Chapman isn't getting more love. He won't make plays directly, but he's a rock you can build your defense around. CBS has him listed as a 5th rounder, which seems crazy to me.
     
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    Walter Football updated mock draft has us taking Poe at 9.

    Ugh.

    More I learn about the prospects this year more I favor the attempt to move down. Absolutely no difference in pick 9 and 21....at 21 we would be able to get one of the DTs (Brockers, Poe, Worthy, Cox) a SS like Barron, or a CB like Dre or Janoris Jenkins...which is exactly why we won't be able to pull off a trade. Unless the Tannehill hype train picks up speed.
     
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    Too many draft sites are run by idiots.
     
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    Some fat dude runs fast and he's automatically a top 10 pick? wtf
     
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    only takes one team ahead of us to do something weird for us to be picking essentially from the 1st 8. the teams ahead us are bad for a reason. if Del Rio was still HC in Jax I would bet the house on it.
     
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    The difference is that there aren't really any prospects who you'd expect someone to reach for in that range. Brockers & Wright crapped the bed at the combine, so that probably takes them out. Tannehill could sneak in, but I still very much doubt that given that Miami unquestionably prefers a veteran option like Manning or Flynn (Seattle could take Tannehill at 12, but that means nothing to the Panthers). No one is taking DeCastro in the top 7, and I don't see Upshaw or Kirkpatrick sneaking into that range either. Meanwhile it looks like Richardson is probably falling out of the top 10, reducing the pool by yet another player. Coples could fall if some team just loves Ingram, but I think that's about it.
     
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    last year you had 3: Newton, Locker, Aldon Smith.

    fairly and quinn fell to 13 & 14
    prince fell to 19
     

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