Donnie Edwards

from that linked article -

>>>"Edwards pulled up lame in the Chargers' second practice on the first day of training camp and has not practiced since"<<<



Why are we even discussing this as a possibility? Richardson is no Jerry Jones and he won't knowingly dish out some hefty lengthy contract (and a draft pick!) for some discontent wounded pussy who hasn't even been practicing THE END







okay the "pussy" comment and the dramatic punctuation are asshat material . .. so be it

 

Again, no, that is completely incorrect. For one, Brooks is not particularly strong at the point of attack either. He does not engage blockers, then shed and make the tackle. He is a slasher-type who cuts between blockers using his speed and makes tackles that way, just like Edwards. Neither one of them is ever going to rack up many tackles for loss, or blow up a running play at the point of attack. Moreover, you can see just by the tackles numbers that Edwards is strong not only in the passing game but in the run game as well. Brooks had 101, 137, and 125 tackles over the last three seasons, while Edwards had 161, 150, and 152. Brooks has a slight edge in sacks during that period, while Edwards gets the nod in forced fumbles, interceptions, and passes defensed.

Do you see a Walter Jones available for a third round pick? That's the whole point, that Edwards is actually available. Any of us would rather have a huge upgrade on the offensive line, but it's not out there.

 

Less than $4 million, and that was back when he was in the prime of his career. Even if it was Derrick Brooks, no one would pay a 33 year old WLB $20 million over four years regardless. Edwards is unhappy with his contract because it has not been extended.

They're very similar players, and most fans here just aren't familiar enough with Edwards to make a judgment (like rake ignorantly thinking that Brooks was better at the LOS, for instance), so I brought up Brooks as an analogy.

And to my eyes, you're the one doing the campaigning. In this thread you've thrown around statements like "Problem is, you'll probably not do it for less than the $5 mil per year he's due in 07," and "likely the $5 mil a year salary that we'd have to negotiate with him" with no justification. I don't know how much Edwards wants over the remainder of his contract, but I doubt he wants significantly more than similar players at similar ages are getting it, and 33 year old stud linebackers aren't getting $5 million a year.

Sure it can. Where does it say that we'd be forced to extend him? Ashley Lelie wanted an expanded role and more money, but in the end didn't he settle for a change of scenery? Edwards feels like he's been done wrong by Smith, who has been stringing him along about an extension for years now. It's similar to the Kevin Greene situation we had so long ago, where Greene just wanted to get out because he felt that we had backed out of our word.

True, but you're the one who posted the thread, right?


rake:
You really need to stop throwing around invectives when you don't know what you're talking about. Edwards is not a "pussy," he's basically holding out without incurring the financial penalty.

 

OH COLLIN! You're incorrigible . . . and a pompous abrasive ass



Do I know what I'm talking about NOW?!

 

Sure.

 

Eh...Edwards is no pussy. Now its getting ridiculous.

Regardless of whether Edwards is comparible to Brooks or not, and I personally think he is, what is fact, is that he is better than anyone we have right now. Jesus, in this defense Id fucking love to see how he performs. It would be awkward, being that we didnt resign Witherspoon, and then we pull this, and yeah, it probably wont happen. But fuck that. If it did, I'll dance around like an asshole.

Donnie Edwards as a Panther just fucking rocks. Holy shit, man....

 

I am no expert on the details of Edwards game although I know he has been good for a long time. I would really rather pass on this deal though. It is too much to give up for an aging player. I think we have enough decent guys to man the spots even if Morgan and Diggs were both done. Sewards has looked really good to me and with Draft and Adams around I think we would be ok. Draft filled in for Morgan a lot last year and we really did not suffer that much for it, we won games anyway. I would have rather overpaid Spoon than do this.

 

Just to be clear, this is the kind of opinion I respect. It's thoughtful, logical, and perfectly valid.

 

. . . means i was goofin' with the "pussy" remark guys

yes, Edwards has been badass thoughout his career

no, the Panthers will not be part of that career . .. just my

 

I provided a link that Edwards wanted more money. You don't have anything to refute that, so you're dismissing it - Smith suggested it was a matter of more money. If it was just a matter of extending him, maybe they'd say it, maybe they wouldn't, but it would probably not be a "I need to be traded off this team if I don't get signed this offseason" situation. Players ask to be traded so they can get more money or because they're in losing situations. He had plenty of job security.

You're directly suggesting that it's a Brooks-for-a-3rd equation. It's not Brooks. The analogy is fine but it's not a shell game.

well, naturally. I'm disagreeing with you.
:229031_ha

OLB contract values, and that players generally deal with numbers equivalent or greater to their past deals. There's plenty of weight behind it, as well as Smith's own words of wanting more.

You certainly seem to suggest it when you say he won't make over "x".

Lelie didn't end up with what he wants, and he's playing in a rookie contract. Not a big, back end deal.

And we're not forced to extend him, but in no way does it make sense to spend a 3rd for a one year rental.

Certainly. That doesn't make it true, or impending. Guys leak things to the press all the time to position themselves to teams that are actually interested. Remember Willis McGahee?