Crossman gone

That one game it was uncertain whether Kasay would go, Lloyd was supposedly hitting hardcore from outside 50 per Gantt. Never said anything about it since despite much prodding.

 

here's what i read... some areas dead last or league worse....

But in spite of Lloyd's kickoff proficiency, the Panthers struggled on kickoff coverage. Lloyd's 30-percent touchback ratio ranked fifth in the league last season, but when opponents returned his kickoffs, their average drive start was at their 29.6, the fourth-worst in the league.
Kickoff returns were also a point of frustration for the Panthers in recent seasons. Their collective average of 20.3 yards per kickoff return in the last five years ranked 32nd in that span, was 2.3 yards below the league average (22.6) and four yards behind the league's best (New England, 24.3).
During the last five years, 13 teams had single-season kickoff-return averages below 20 yards. Three of those 13 -- the most in the league -- were by the Panthers, including a 19.9-yard average in 2009 that ranked 31st.
Carolina fared better on punt returns the last five years; the team's 8.4-yard average ranked 20th in the league in that span.
Return touchdowns were also difficult to find. The Panthers are the only team without a kickoff- or punt-return touchdown in the last five seasons; they've allowed five to opponents in that span, including two in 2009: an 85-yard DeSean Jackson punt return in Week 1 and a 97-yard Sammie Stroughter kickoff return for Tampa Bay in Week 6.
Carolina also had some difficulties with punt protection, allowing a league-worst five punts to be blocked in the last five years, including three in 2008. The Panthers were also one of six teams to not block an opponent's punt in the last five years. Their last punt block was by Karl Hankton on Dec. 26, 2004 at Tampa Bay in the penultimate game of O'Brien's tenure.

 

yeah, I know. What we're talking about is that Meat and I were talking about O'Brien when you said all that.