Chip Kelly to the 49ers

Which is why he (and every other head coach) shouldn't have control over personnel.

 

Agreesome.

 

I realize that you're embarrassed about being called out on the absurdity of your comments, but lying about what you said is only going to make things worse. Here is the direct quote: "He's a coach who never coaches anybody for more than 1 to 3 years and then moves on." You didn't say four years, you said "1 to 3." You also didn't say that the players move on, you said that he does. For whatever reason you had the impression that Chip Kelly had moved around a lot and you never bothered to check your facts on that before posting. Instead of pretending that you meant something other than what you actually wrote, just learn to take the extra thirty seconds required to confirm or dispute an assumption. The main reason I'm almost always correct about the things that I post is that I stop to check them before posting if I'm not sure.

You're the only person I've ever seen who claims that Chip Kelly's offensive success is due to the recruited talent he had to work with. Even critics of Kelly acknowledge that he is a premier offensive mind.

I like how you questioned "his ability at being a HC" and then in the very next sentence insist that you didn't do that. Oh, and let's not forget your initial post beginning with the declaration: "I wouldn't want Kelly as my NFL coach....at....all."

In 2009 Oregon allowed the second fewest points in Pac-12 conference play behind only USC. They also beat the #18, #6, #4, and #13 teams in the nation. In 2010 Oregon again allowed the second fewest points in Pac-12 conference play, this time behind Stanford. They beat the #9, #20, and #24 ranked teams. In 2011 Oregon allowed the fewest points in Pac-12 conference play. They beat the #18, #3, and #9 ranked teams. In 2012 Oregon allowed the second fewest points in Pac-12 conference play, trailing Stanford again. They beat the #22, #23, #18, #16, and #7 ranked teams.

Do you see what I mean now? You could have spent a minute or two checking the facts on Kelly before you made your first post. You didn't, and as a result I called you out on how ridiculously inaccurate those comments were. Then instead of making absolutely sure you had it correct this time, you came back with even more nonsense that was extremely easy for me to prove wrong.

 

Has Joe Philbin been picked up by any team? He was the OC in Green Bay prior to the Dolphins, yes?

 

I hope we can win period. This 5 win BS sucks.

 

Wasn't it Parcells that said something to the affect that "if you're going to ask me to cook the dinner I ought to do the shopping?"

The HC should have some input over personnel, however, it's nearly impossible to wear both hats of GM/HC.

 

Collin, I certainly appreciate you pointing out my apparent retardidness, thank you so much!

My opinion of Kelly is I don't think he will be a successful NFL coach if he's allowed all the power. If he's gonna be calling plays and running the offense, he needs to spend his time doing that and being the HC and not worry about all the other shit. Which is actually agreeing with you. Still, I think he has better relationships with younger college players for short terms than long term with NFL men. Many college coaches do as well. It's not a bad thing or nock on them, it's just the way it is. Read some of Saban's comments on the subject. He concurs.

I am sincerely glad to have given you the weekly opportunity to twist people's posts who may not be as articulate as you making a point (right or wrong) and be able post your narcissistic sense of all knowing football and do your duty as the post police and resident ass in charge to make sure your swinging dick is the king daddy. Stats for backup, no problem, it's your good duty. Maybe your life, I dunno. Numbers as you know don't always tell the real story.

Turnover in college is tremendous and they don't quite plan the future like NFL coaches/gms do. That was my point, I apologize for not being more clear for you. Sure, he may not be the best at finding and signing college talent. But he's better at that than in the NFL. Again, my point.

I know where the fuck Kelly has been and even so, more to your assertion that he's been some kinda long term rock: he was only the HC for 4 years at Oregon. He was the OC for some years before that (5 or 6 maybe, I'm not looking it up). But that wasn't my point. It was turnover of players and personnel at the college level. But hey, even though my point wasn't Kelley moved around a lot and it was players, hell, 4 years as HC and he moved on, now didn't he? Heck, he may even be proven to be a flake who moves on or gets fired every 4 years, I dunno. I'm not saying he is. Either way, if that was my point (and it wasn't) it was just as correct because I said 3-4 years and he hasn't been a HC in the same place for 4 years yet, now has he? Hmmm. I understand you may be just too smart to get the point no college coaches coach any of their players more than 3-4 years at most before they (fucking players) move on and they also have a pretty fair amount of turnover in personnel as well because I'm not good maybe at making a good point. I can understand while I called you on your misinterpretation, you want to turn it back on me because you certainly can't be wrong and, a retard right. That's fine, man. I know what I said and meant. I was right either way. But I'm not here to be right like you, I'm here to give an opinion and listen to others.

I say Chip Kelly with all the power will be in the same boat he is right now after 3-4 years in the NFL (if he has all the power). I do not want him as my NFL HC...at...all. Nope, do not. Said it, meant it. He wants the power and I just don't like him as an NFL HC with all the power, period. That's my opinion, said it, meant it.

And for the record, just for one point you tried to point out as a stat; Oregon did not allow the least points in conference play in 2011. They had the 2nd least, behind Utah in conference play and fifth in their conference in overall play. First overall and conference play on offense. 2012 was second in points allowed in conference and third overall. And the rest of the conference is shit. Same as 2011 for offense. His offense routinely score a shit ton of points, I said that before. If his defenses played in the SEC, even though the offenses scored a shit ton, I think they wouldn't have won as much. but that's my opinion, and there's no stats to prove that or not. Just the eyeball test.

His offense has always been balls to the wall and one of the highest scoring throughout the NCAA during his tenure. His scheme is hard for other colleges to successfully game plan for. He is prolly one of the best OC in college football. He could possibly be a great NFL OC if he were to spend all his time configuring his scheme to better fit whatever personnel he has on hand. I dunno. He's looked good and bad, depending.

Still, I would not want him as my HC in the NFL for lots of reasons. Especially with all the power. I don't like him.

But thanks again, oh wise one. I certainly appreciate your putting me in my place.

I'm sure you'll be right away to do it again. Calling me a liar and such, respectfully, of course. It's your mantra to dispute once you've started a war of words for whatever reason.

Hell, I'm sure I haven't posted my dumbest shit yet. Give me some time. Be patient. It will come. Regardless of whether you're here to point it out...or not. I'm sure you will if you are. It's apparently your job. And you do it well. For free even. Good job!

 

Mike Smith is getting looked at to be DC somewhere can't recall. That ought to be his career path

 

Some being the key term.