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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by meatpile, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. rake

    rake Need one of these

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    I agree Magnus/Thelt that they shoulda kept Lewis and Brayton shoulda been locked down for the same reason. . . no vet leadership. That would leave only a #2 WR and a backup QB as the primary spots to upgrade
     
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  2. Thelt

    Thelt Full Access Member

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    I would not have been against bringing Brayton back but I really think it is time to let Johnson and Brown start.
     
  3. Wp28

    Wp28 I had that dream again...

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    I agree this is a big concern..
     
  4. Thelt

    Thelt Full Access Member

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    We started rebuilding in Siefert's final year. That worked out OK. I kind of think/hope that if the 2011 lock out is averted they will extend Fox.
     
  5. Faithwarrior118

    Faithwarrior118 Jesus loves you

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    This is a real good read on what is actually going to happen in 2011. It was written by David Cornwell, a finalist for the NFLPA chief position that went to DeMaurice Smith last March.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wm-david-cornwell-sr/there-will-not-be-a-locko_b_463803.html

    "In March 2011, once the NFL and the NFLPA have negotiated to impasse, the NFL will invoke a rule relating to impasse and unilaterally impose new rules for wages, hours and other terms and conditions of employment that will be, as required by labor law, substantially similar to the last proposal made to the NFLPA prior to negotiations reaching impasse. The NFL used this tactic in 1987.

    In response, in 1987 Gene Upshaw decertified the NFLPA as the collective bargaining representative of NFL players and, invoking a labor law rule relating to decertification, stripped the NFL of the antitrust exemption and opened the door for a wave of antitrust lawsuits against the NFL's then unilaterally imposed system.

    Without the antitrust exemption between 1987 and 1993, the NFL's draft, free agency rules, and certain rules regarding player compensation were ultimately declared unlawful. Since 1993, each collective bargaining agreement in the NFL is a variation, in one form or another, of the settlement agreement that resolved the antitrust lawsuits that began with the NFLPA's decertification in 1987.

    As negotiations progress closer to March 2011, expect the NFL to tailor its collective bargaining proposals so that its final, pre-impasse proposal will have two features: (1) owners will make more money than they do under the current CBA and; (2) when converted into a post-impasse system, a reasonable chance of surviving years of challenges under the antitrust laws.

    The NFLPA will face a tough choice if the owners press collective bargaining to impasse in 2011. Confronting a smaller piece of the pie under a new system will force the NFLPA to either strike or decertify. The NFLPA cannot strike, sacrifice players' paychecks, and expose players to public ridicule. In response to an impasse, players will play and the NFLPA will decertify and file antitrust lawsuits attacking each element of the owners' post-impasse system. This may be a risky, expensive, and time-consuming course for players.
     
  6. meatpile

    meatpile 7-9

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    David Carr got:

    two years, $6.25 million, with another $1.87 million worth of incentives.
     
  7. presidence99

    presidence99 This MARRIAGE?

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    I didn't say they'd be any good, just that someone could be found for less money.

    EDIT: Shaun Hill the guy Carr is likely to replace is making 1.4 million.
     
  8. hasbeen99

    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    It sure seems like it. But like Meat said, a lot can happen between now and training camp, and I think it will. That being said, it sure feels like rebuilding in my gut. :worried:
     
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    hasbeen99 Fighting the stereotype

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    Werd.
     

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