Brett Favre to retire today!!

that's rich. they had driver last year and no one else. how'd that go?

ever team in the nfl is singing this. in magical packer land though, if everyone wishes for it very very hard, then it just might come true. clap your hands and believe, children! believe!

that would shock the world. injuries, freak accidents, hurricanes, terrorist plots aside, the bears are the class of that division. that's more of a reflection on the nfc north, rather than a glorious heralding of the bears.

relying on a handful of draft picks? why, that would almost seem to be.......rebuilding. maybe. sortakinda. a little.
driver? gado? franks?
green is an ok back. davenport not so much.
winning the north?

whatever. put some money on it.

 

Look, I understand that you're upset about being made to look like you don't know what you're talking about, but again, that isn't my fault. You ran your mouth about Favre retiring when it was obvious that wasn't what the press conference would be about. Then you ran your mouth about how he should retire because you were embarrassed about being wrong. Now you're continuing to run your mouth to justify the previous ignorant statement. You just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper with one absurd comment after another, and it's not necessary.

We had Steve Smith last and no one else. How did that go? Driver is no Smitty, but he's a strong receiver. You, like so many other members of the ignorant masses, think that Green Bay's problem was a lack of weapons. It wasn't. The problem was the offensive line, where they had a number of injuries compounding the defection of Rivera and Wahle in free agency. As I just told you, they addressed those positions with first day draft picks and should be much better. Then I've already mentioned that Ferguson is there after missing much of last season with a knee injury, and they added Greg Jennings in the second round. Unfortunately you seem incapable of understanding that first day draft picks are expected to contribute as rookies, and that playing them does not constitute rebuilding. If we hadn't re-signed Foster, would we be considered rebuilding by playing DeAngelo Williams? Chris Gamble played as a rookie, so were we rebuilding then? Seriously, you should stop talking because you continue to expose more ignorance with every comment you make.

The Bears are not a very strong team, especially if they continue to be stupid and insist on playing Cedric Benson over Thomas Jones. Anytime Brian Griese is considered a major upgrade, you have problems at quarterback, and their receivers are worse than Green Bay's. Obviously the defense is better, but it's still overrated. Over half the sacks of their DEs came in two games against us and Tampa. They hardly did anything else the whole year. Urlacher is a star, but Vasher is overrated because of Sportscenter and Jake sending him a couple of gifts last season. If you don't panic, you can attack their safeties in the passing game and wear down their smallish DTs with the run. The Bears are still the favorite, certainly, but they looked a lot like their 2001 team that went 13-3 and then 4-12 the following season. Chicago won't fall that far, especially given their easy schedule, but they're not very good either. The whole NFC North is filled with flawed teams, which is why Green Bay has a better shot than people think.

 

Green Bay has a reasonable schedule. Their first two games are at home, against Chicago and New Orleans, before traveling to Detroit. That could be a 3-0 start. Spitz and Colledge fit the mold of what they want at G, and they still have two good bookends. Wells is a downgrade at C. The interior line won't be too bad, but I do think it will take time for things to gel. And they'll be facing some of the leagues best interior defense linemen twice a year.

We certainly should not write off Green Bay. Personally, I don't think they'll make the playoffs, but I didn't think Chicago would make the playoffs last year, much less win the division.

 

I know I could look it up, but have they decided on Colledge at OT and moving Tauscher inside, or the other way around? They really did screw themselves by not replacing their guards, even if Rivera wasn't worth half that; Klemm laid an egg and you can't fault them for him, but you still have to have depth and options.

 

Based on the team site's depth chart, Colledge is at G.

 

And we have a winner!

Collin cleaned your clock man.

 

i don't really try to argue with folks on the internet. it's all about someone trying to get the last word, making them feel superior. the anonymity of cyberspace has spawned an entire legion of master debaters, but in reality, they are little more than jerkoffs.

everyone has their own opinion, and that's wonderful. and dangerous.

some individuals you encounter in this online wonderland may have disease of the body or mind, or other various handicaps, that limit their enjoyment of life. in effect, they feel animosity towards the outside world, the real world, and feel the need to lash out blindly in whatever manner they have learned from parents, associates, an uncaring society, or simply the cold cruel world. it is essentially their only defense against all the transgressions, real or imagined, they face in life, or are unable to face in life as the case may be. woe and shame on us that provoke these sleeping mental malfunctioning souls, for we should practice sympathy, tolerance and compassion, rather than encouraging their imaginary aggression.

 

In my opinion the minute you start earnestly and passionately debating some board squatter who you’re sure is fucked up YOU become just as fucked up as you perceive him to be

 

Actually you did. Remember, you're the one who came after me, not the other way around. I simply turned the tables by beating the living hell out of you when it came to knowledge of the issues. You had no idea about the makeup of Green Bay's roster or the changes they had made since last season, you were just running your mouth ignorantly because you were pissed off about me laughing at the people who thought Favre was retiring. And obviously you can disagree, but I don't think that intolerance for stupidity, especially arrogant stupidity, is such a bad thing. In fact, I think if more people actually held those around them to basic standards, we wouldn't have so many ignorant people running their mouths.