Atkins Pros

The latest studies coming from Duke and Harvard are pointing to the Atkins diet being safe...creatine levels were fine, cholesterol was reduced, blood pressure down, and there were no problems with kidneys....shit, I take a creatine supplement and my levels are fine.

For serious obese people, there are more long term dangers in carrying the extra weight than any short term dangers that may take place while losing the weight.

 

Norm- sounds like you are doing a little side-step here. I asked if you had 100% approval from YOUR MD to follow "ATKIN'S"- not part of it, or carb-controlled or from your wife's doc, I asked about you asking YOUR MD if "Atkins" as is, was safe for you.

 

Yeah, God forbid they watch their calorie intake and exercise.

 

my MD said atkins was 100% safe...

for every doctor that says it is unsafe, you can find another that will say it is safe. From what I've found, most of the naysayers just regurgatate (sp) heresay and haven't done any research on it.

 

that's because they are addicted to the insulin spikes that eating carbs gives them....Atkins breaks the addiction.

You've had trouble quitting smoking in the past right? Your body is addicted to nicotine just like these people's are addictied to the insulin spikes. You've tried some hokey methods of quitting too, haven't you?

It's not just carbs that are almost eliminated...it is also caffeine....because caffeince can cause an insulin spike in certain people...although the people I know who are diabetic dispute that.

 

Hook a few folks up to dialysis that went into renal failure from ketosis and see if you are whistling a different tune. And yes Norm- it is a different type of ketosis than diabetics go into, but ketosis is ketosis: You are burning fat for fuel CONSTANTLY. Fat was meant to be stored for emergencies. Throwing your body into thinking it is in an emergency situation 24/7 is just not safe. Nature meant for us to burn carbs first, then protien, then fats. Fucking with the way your body was designed to work is risky business, I don't give a big fat rats ass what a book says. It's your kidneys- have at em'!

 

How do you know humans are supposed to use carbs for energy? Everything I've read points to man as being meat eaters.

Actually, research is showing fat to be a better energy source. When carbs are burned for energy, the by product is lactic acid which makes the muscles tired and sore...when fat is burned, there is no lactic acid...athletes have actually performed better when using fat for energy vs carbs. did you know caffeine is a banned olympic substance simply because it makes one burn more fat for energy thus giving a performance advantage?

According to doctors I've talked to, most of the people you hook up to dialysis have done several things to pre-fuck up their kidneys before they went on Atkins....being overweight is very unhealthy.

 

I'll do that Fred. For the last time, there is no evidence that this is unhealthy for your kidneys. Can you provide me with some? As in, evidence that Atkins has caused kidney problems in someone who previously didn't have kidney problems? But if my blood urea nitrogen and creatine are too low or too high as a result, I'll be the first person to bash Mr. Atkins.

People think that this nutritional approach is bacon and eggs all day long. It's not. It's also vegetables, water, excercise, and vitamin supplements.

The author actually released an updated version of his book to encourage people to not see it as a "diet" but rather on ongoing health regimine. That doesn't mean "doing Atkins" the rest of your life. Induction (the first two weeks) is the most severe time of the weight loss plan, but after that, you adopt a lower carb diet, not no carb diet.

Fred, having said all that, I do respect your opinion because you are a nurse and obviously see many people with varying health problems. It's nice to know that, in some way, you're looking out for me.

 

What is wrong with burning fat from your body IF YOU HAVE TOO MUCH OF IT? That's the point. Getting rid of the excess fat on my body. Once I have lost what I want to lose, I'll go back on a normal eating arrangement, but "normal" means not as much carbs as I used to eat.

 

Then my answer is no. I did not consult a doctor. But, I have no health problems as I had a physical a month ago. If I did, I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this without an MD's consent. Shall I consult my doctor before I start my workout program too? Those free weights can really be dangerous and I should really ask my doctor about them before starting.

Don't you think if Atkins was so deadly bad as you proclaim it is that there would be rioting in the streets against it? There is a reason why his book has been on the best seller list for so many years.