2004 Draft main discussion

I just came up with a way of thinking about the upcoming draft that makes me feel very good about where we’re picking. Look at it THIS way -

We traded our 2004 1st round pick for a Superbowl win and we get to pick FIRST in rounds 2 through 6 with a shot at Mr. Irrelevant at the end.

 

31-32 for 26 isn't a big change.
Mr. Irrelevant will go to someone who gets a compensatory pick

 

Yeah, I know. But I just like knowing fer sure.

 

yeah, I just wanted to make mention of that 7th round pick.)

Does anyone here have ANY faith left that last years 7th round picks (Young & Moore) will stick next season and prove to be worth a damn?

 

Young could. Considering how we are this year, I'd expect that Young won't see much time, though, and I hope we put someone young in the 4th spot. Doesn't have to be a #1 or #2, we need a TE more and we can't neglect D by any means. But we do need that third/fourth guy depending on his impact v/s Proehl, because we're old at receiver.

Moore? Be surprised. Goings is hard to root out of there and he's showing as an allright offensive asset. Right now he's our 3rd RB, not Smart, it seems.

 

These guys have us picking up Ben Troupe. I think that would be an excellent pick for us. Troupe is a strong guy, good hands, good blocker. Would be an excellent fit.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/2004DRAFT/REmock1.htm

 

I think we've put up thoughts about Troupe in this thread so I'll keep my comments brief. I wish that he had a little more speed, but as long as he's more in the 4.65 range and not the Seidman 4.8 range I'm fine with him.
Might be the most pressing need, depending on whether we keep mangum/wiggins, which we should keep Wig and we'll damn sure want to keep Mangum. Personally Wig has outplayed him.

 

The thirty-six 2004 underclassmen & MORE!

This high quality crop (16 in particular) might help to push a handful of good seniors down into our range like Dansby, Vilma, Strait, Woods or Evans. If we don't have a shot at one of the 32 numbered players below in a need position for us then something will have gone very wrong.

16 First round underclassmen -

1- Ben Roethlisberger Miami (Ohio) QB
2 - Larry Fitzgerald Valley Forge Military Academy (&Pitt) WR
3 - Shawn Andrews Arkansas OT
4 - Sean Taylor Miami S
5 - Vince Wilfork Miami DT
6 - Reggie Williams Washington WR
7 - DeAngelo Hall Virginia Tech CB
8 - Kellen Winslow Miami TE
9 - Kenechi Udeze USC DE
10 - Michael Clayton LSU WR
11 - Chris Gamble Ohio State CB
12 - Kevin Jones Virginia Tech RB
13 - Steven Jackson Oregon State RB
14 - Tommie Harris Oklahoma DT
15 - Randy Starks Maryland DT
16 - Sean Jones Georgia S


20 more juniors (many of which are top 60)-


Matthias Askew Michigan State DT
Kelly Butler Purdue OT
Ahmad Carroll Arkansas CB
Ahmad Childress Alabama DT
Devard Darling Washington St. WR
Michael Gaines Central Florida TE
Robert Geathers Georgia DE
Amon Gordon Stanford DT
Derrick Hamilton Clemson WR
Tony Hargrove Georgia Tech DE
Matt Mauck LSU QB
Antwan Odom Alabama DE
Igor Olshansky Oregon DT
Jason Peters Arkansas TE
Mark Pierce Arkansas FB
P.K. Sam Florida State WR
Jason Shivers Arizona State S
Justin Smiley Alabama G
Matt Ware UCLA FS
Donnell Washington Clemson DT


16 First round SENIORS -

1 - Eli Manning Mississippi QB
2 - Roy Williams Texas WR
3 - Robert Gallery Iowa OT
4 - Will Smith Ohio State DE
5 - D.J. Williams Miami (Fl) LB
6 - Karlos Dansby Auburn LB
7 - Jonathan Vilma Miami (Fl) LB
8 - Vernon Carey Miami (Fl) OL
9 - Derrick Strait Oklahoma CB
10 - Rashaun Woods Oklahoma State WR
11 - Michael Jenkins Ohio State WR
12 - Lee Evans Wisconsin WR
13 - J.P. Losman Tulane QB
14 - Marcus Tubbs Texas DT
15 - Nathan Vasher Texas CB
16 - Dunta Robinson South Carolina CB

5 more SENIORS (probably 2nd round material) Doubt we will have to "settle" for one of these in the first -

Ben Troupe Florida TE
Keiwan Ratliff Florida CB
Ricardo Colclough Tusculum CB
Dontarrious Thomas Auburn LB
Ted Lehman Oklahoma LB

 

Let's not forget Seidman at the top of the 3rd either. If the draft were as cut and dry as you would like to believe it is y2 then it would "play out" perfectly for every team every year, but for better and worse it's apparently not all that simple a task. Some of us enjoy this part of the game and like to play around with it . . . if you're not ready to play yet don't be pissin in the sandbox. :apfbbt: