Cam Named starter for Cincy game

I don't necessarily disagree with this. However IMO starting Anderson is a a worse option. Its mailing in the season without giving the rookie game experience. He was brought in to help teach the young guys an offense he's familiar with. If you want to start a vet then we need to go find another vet.

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/panthers/comments/jq18g/newton_to_start_third_preseason_game_he_is/

some clausen fans out there

 

No. Wins sell tickets in the NFL...not players. JR knows that. If we are 4-10 in December, there will be empty seats no matter who the QB is. And that doesn't just happen in Charlotte. It happens all over the NFL.

 

that would be a fact, sir

 

Ask yourself: What has Clausen demonstrated in his complete body of NFL work (2010, 2011 camp, 2011 preseason) that leads you to believe starting him would yield better results for the offense in a 16-game grind than Newton? If the team had Hasselbeck/McNabb or a more viable vereran presence than Anderson, there would be little debate at this point on this. Anderson, IMO, hasn't thrown more than 20 passes in live contact drills during camp, if that, and when he has it's been no better than the other two.

Mags/Collin/Football Guys: Correct me if I'm wrong *again*, but don't you consider Clausen a rookie all over again at this point with the complexity of the offense? Or, at least, maybe like a 1/2 a rookie?

To be clear, when I had a little camp access this month, I was very fair in my analysis of Clausen's strength's vs. Newton's weaknesses.

Sometimes, it's ok to simply say you don't trust a guy. I wouldn't trust Clausen as my starter, as he's never shown a true knack for leadership/winning.

 

Anderson was also awful there and everywhere else except for that one season. Even in that one season he wasn't actually good, he just had a high touchdown total because he kept chucking it deep to Braylon Edwards and it happened to work a lot. Rex Grossman had one good season too, but that doesn't make either one of them good quarterbacks. Honestly, Derek Anderson is beyond awful, which is why I vomited when the Panthers signed him.

Interesting thought, but I do not agree for a couple of reasons. #1) Newton isn't anywhere close to Vick as a runner. He's not even as elusive as Vince Young. #2) I really don't think the Panthers will use him on designed runs that often, and they'll probably discourage him from running on his own. There's no point in taking that abuse for a team that's not going anywhere.


In any case, I called this as soon as he was selected. If you take a quarterback #1 overall, he's more than likely going be the starter right away. This is about selling tickets, as well as the misguided notion that young QBs need to get their head kicked around in actual games in order to improve. It's unfortunately and could ultimately hurt his development, but it is what it is.

 

You're wrong. You said it yourself that Newton is coming from a one-read system with no OTAs. Clausen is so far ahead of him in mental preparation and ability to understand the game that there's really not even a comparison. Newton has no idea what he's doing, and just throwing him out there on a field is not going to help. Having a full season of experience in meetings, watching film, and understanding a pro offense is a huge advantage.

I hate this kind of "reasoning." It reminds me of people who used to say that the Panthers didn't win because they didn't have enough passion. Yes, of course there is something to the idea that charisma inspires teammates, and that Newton has it while Clausen does not. But ultimately what matters is if you can do the physical and mental things to get the job done, not what your personality is or what your teammates think about you.


In an ideal world, this is what I would want:

 

It seems pretty clear that this was never an actual competition, as Clausen has played significantly better than Newton during the preseason. Cam has been pretty bad, really, which is why it's mystifying that various media sources like SI and ESPN have been praising him. Newton being forced into the starting spot reminds me a little of the Matt Leinart situation last preseason when he posted pretty good numbers, but Whisenhunt was just not interested and wanted to move on. I think that's how the team feels about Clausen, which is fine by me since the fans definitely feel that way.

The one thing I do really like about Cam is that he doesn't just throw the ball up for grabs. I can live with a low completion percentage and frustrating inaccuracy as long as he's not giving the ball to the other team.

 

Allot of people say It ruins a Qb to throw him out there because they get \"shell shocked\" like Carr or Leaf or who ever. I think it depends on the person. Newton reminds my of Hines ward, he loves the game, is always smiling like nothing seems to faze him. He also won a national championship with all the scandal stuff in his face. Thats the difference between him being able to handle pressure and guys like Carr folding and shutting down under the pressure. He is way more headstrong than leaf, Carr or clasuen for that matter. Some guys can be thrown in, some have to be treated like a baby. I think he\'ll be fine.

 

and as far as sitting a year, yea it worked for guys like Rodgers. He also got picked with the 24th pick to a good team. He didn\'t get picked by the \"worst team\" and have to start from scratch. The best way for newton is to sink or swim get him on the field let work it out. see if he can handle it mentally.