lock out lifted

Think GM and Ford wouldn't love it if the UAW decertified? You want the players to be forced to be a union?

Trust me, I'd rather us keep the competive balance that the draft, revenue sharing, and the cap allows. It makes for a better league, and keeps us from being like baseball. And hopefully enough of those aspects that keep the competitive balance will survive an anti trust suit, or we get a real CBA deal.

But I'm not crying for the owners here. They stopped the old deal. They didn't open the books. They allowed this to happen on what was a fragile legal ledge.

 

expense would definitely be greater, but you could argue a huge project like Newton at a longer deal is a better idea.

I could argue it either way really. I think money's gonna suck either way, and you pick the highest guy on your board either way.

 

The only thing that may change is that it may make trades slightly more likely, even though the expense got higher. Now you throw players into the equation.

 

NFL: Clubs to 'continue to follow current rules'

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/28896206

 

So, if the Appeals court upholds the original US District Court's ruling to end the lockout, will the owners just appeal that decision to the supreme court and say," We will just keep the lockout in place until we are told otherwise"? If thats the case, there will be no 2011 season.

 

You don't open the books for your employees. If they needed to see the numbers, they did. You just open the books. That was a retarded demand, and it was done to stall and to sabotage the process.

Yes, the owners stopped the deal. It was an unfair one, and it seems every week, a player opens his mouth and talks about what a great deal they got.

Biggest thing I'm pissed about is here we are again, all set with unproven rookies coming in and making more dough in one contract than some excellent vets make in their lifetimes. Unbelievable.

 

>>Biggest thing I'm pissed about is here we are again, all set with unproven rookies coming in and making more dough in one contract than some excellent vets make in their lifetimes. Unbelievable.

Again, all of this was the owners doing. Rookie wage scale was one of the things they got agreement on. The Union even offered to extend the 2010 rules through 2011 to allow for more negotiation, and the owners wouldn't have an anti trust problem.

The owners aren't losing their shirts, even the NFL admits that. Its that many of them aren't wholly ownded anymore, and the investors want a 10 percent return. The same profits won't get that.

Which is their problem. I have little sympathy for billionaires problem of attracting new investors because profits haven't increased enough. This is a money grab.

The players aren't doing anything that isn't within their legal rights. Now the Owners have to operate their business in compliance with, gasp, anti-trust laws. Just like every other business in the country.

 

Again, non-payroll expenses have increased dramatically since the last CBA, and it's crazy for the players not to concede that. Back when dumbass cities could be convinced to pay for stadiums, the owners were fine. They're not exactly hurting now, but they aren't taking home nearly as much as they used to, while players were making more than ever.

 

PLayers have admitted that they made out like bandits, and that they were shocked. Let's not pretend the players are victims here either. While I don't consider either side "hurting", it's time that they came to the table to be fair.

While the union is declaring that the NFL have offered the worst deal in the history of sports, and the players are calling people names, and saying its about greed, I find the hypocrisy of this all, a total joke.

The players are wanting to keep what they have, and it's not working right. Shame on them for not conceding, either. To hell with both of them I guess, because they both have valid points, but the bottom line is, it's not working well enough right now, and it should be renegotiated.

The players never sat down in good faith. They have it too good. They're going to make the NFL exhaust every option. They're the ones fucking the fans, too. We can't sit around and pretend it's only the owners here.

 

Yeah, it also annoys me that the union decertification was clearly a sham since they're continuing to negotiate with the same executive board they had as a union. Courts don't operate on common sense.