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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Abusive, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. Abusive

    Abusive Fuck yo blanket

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    I tried, but got the same shit "stock" answer that we get from everyone.
     

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    LaCanfora (poor man's Shefter) is on the Fox-to-Dallas bandwagon. Go for it, Foxy, but he's not Dallas-material. The money will be there, but with Jerry's allowance for the media to expose every detail of the football operations, all year, it just doesn't seem like a comfortable "football" fit for him.

    Then again, Fox wants money.
     
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    I don't either. I can't see Foxy going to a place where with each loss, he'll have to have a pubic vote of confidence, and where the GM co-coaches and micro-manages. I just can't see it.
     
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    Fox, as it's been said, needs to go somewhere in which he can simply coach. That would entail having a strong GM in place. Cleveland makes sense, but I know that Holmgren (and the players) really like Mangini, so that's no gimmie.

    San Diego--if Norv goes, is logical. San Francisco, too.

    But, again, Fox is not leaving Carolina for any reason other than cash. He wants to be paid as a top-5 NFL coach, despite his 36-month history of mediocre football.

    Excuses--for losers. He can slip in all the excuses he wants, but this team should not have been 0-5 to start the year, just as they should not have been 3-5 to start 2009, just as they should have not lost a home playoff game to Arizona by several TD's.

    Fox--good dude, good coach. Stack rank them all and see where he stands. Honestly. Is he top-5 for you?
     
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    McJeff The wheel is turning

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    Where do you come up with this stuff?
     
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    Disagree?
     
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    presidence99 This MARRIAGE?

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    Same issue with a GM that will force people on you like Jerry does.
     
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    he's really got an ideal situation already, other than that he's never seemed to want to develop a QB (though that seems to have changed, and I guess depends partly on the Ryan rumor). He's got no power struggle here, he's got the team he wants.
    It should even weather the current problems, staff change or not, IMO.

    I have no idea if he and JR are really unhappy with each other, or if money cures it.
     
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    Yea, nobody (not even Moose's cuckold) knows the answer to your last question. We can all spew theories, which makes the downtime during the week a little fun.

    I think Fox is at 6 mil/year at this point. And I think he sees Pete Carroll making more than that, and sees guys like Shanahan, Belichick making much more, and truly believes he's in that strike zone.

    If I had to guess, I think it probably had something to do (the rift) with Richardson's unwillingness to retain Foxy's posse after 2008. I don't think for a minute that Fox wanted Trgo, Sal, or many of the others to have to leave, although some wanted to leave. The fact that no effort was made at all to retain them probably pissed JF off.

    At the same time, I'm not sold that he and Richardson are in any worse shape than they have been in the past decade. Hard to figure, other than looking at Fox wanting much more money that JR is willing to pay (and frankly, more money than his track record warrants).
     
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    at the time I believed there was a matter of teams trying to cut coach salaries. I'm surprised we haven't seen a coaching union. They cut front office staff at the time too.
    It would fit with them now wanting to cut player salaries.

    I don't know. I think, all in all, we didn't miss out on anything. Is Sal a good buddy from 30 years ago? Yeah. Is Baker better? Yeah. I tend to like Smith over Flajole, and Scherer over McCoy. You ask a week ago and I'd have said that Tolbert was shit but we were going to see an age out of some guys anyway.

    Maybe long term that refresh that came with those guys would aid a new HC, too. I don't want Meeks to go by any means but a 4-3 isn't hard to coach once it knows how to play.
     

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