offensive coordinator jeff davidson

i mean, really.

 

Montana is the best the 49ers have ever had.....you think they trade their QB for him now?

No he didn't suck all by himself, but he sucked the most, he's been ineffective all preseason, and his last game last season was pretty bad. His physical ability, never the best to begin with, has been suspect for some time. His greatest asset is his ability to motivate the troops...he hasn't done that in a while.

 

honestly, i think that anyone that quickly blames the QB for offensive problems hasn't played or coached football. there's so much that goes into a play working. it's a team sport and when someone goofs up and misses an assignment, it screws up the play.

it's not always player screwing up. teams can get out-schemed and out-coached. players may not be able to adjust to a defense, pick up a blitz, etc. -- they may not have prepared for it. the coaches may not have seen it before and didn't prepare for it.

not saying that ANY of that came into play yesterday -- it seems to be a combination of a lot of factors.

i just think it's overly simplistic for people to point to the QB when an INT is thrown. that's in a vacuum, though. Nine of them in two games...that's a trend. and something that needs to be addressed -- lots of goofing up going on there. by people who are getting paid to NOT goof up a bunch.

 

I think it's the easiest to blame, sure. Comes with the position. I think the people claiming him worst were the ones sorest way before AZ or PHI.

It is a team sport, and I'll stand behind what I felt watching the game - after the punt return, the air just came out of the team. We've seen it happen - things are really rolling, and then one thing goes wrong. Then the next. Now it's worry time, even when you're still theoretically winning. Next thing you know, you're down by two scores, then four.

Some of it's definitely Jake. Throwing that deep ball to Smitty, he had a step on one of the best. Then the ball comes down and it's under. People want to give him shit for the arm but he has more than that. But a guy coming in and hitting him while he's still dropping - which happened a few times, when it should never ever happen, that's a concern.

Always said it's not the best to evaluate in blowout wins or losses. Though, with such an awful performance, you have to look at other options within the loss. And we did. We should've pulled more guys.

 

So in this post you are saying anyone who says Jake ain't so great doesn't know football, but that it seems to be a trend that Jake ain't so great? Team sports have a lot of moving parts, and it's NEVER any one person's failure all the time. But just like you guys want to say how great Jake is because he took us to the Super Bowl....this shit sits squarely on his shoulders as an individual contributor to some degree, but as the team leader mostly. The offense was not motivated Sunday....what does Jake do best?? What is the QBs job? It's to pull the other guys up when they are down...and throw the ball and all that, but when your best quality seems to be failing....you are losing your game.

 

I guess we differ alot more than I thought...I don't think Jake is to blame for a fumble on a sack. An arm gets hit one way or another is the difference in a fumble and a sack. That's a protection issue that's all on the O-line unless he's scrambling around....an experienced QB should see the pressure, but they get blinsided sometimes, regardless of how good they are.

 

given your words, I have no idea what you're actually disagreeing about. I'm saying you can't blame a QB when he's hit before he can get through with his drops and you're saying, to me, a very similar thing.

 

jake sucks in general is what i'm saying, you appear to be the one of the few who doesnt realize it. and its not just two games, we pretty much won in spite of his best efforts to lose last year. his extension, along with the slew of other questionable moves is going to leave this team in dire straits after this season.

 

Oh...OK...I misread your post that you DID blame him for that.

 

no -- i'm saying that people who (in a vacuum) blindly blame the QB for an INT don't know football. like i said, there's too many of them to think that jake isn't a large part of the problem right now. but, as we saw with the backups, he wasn't the only problem yesterday.

"Jake, we didn't give him a chance," left tackle Jordan Gross said.

Added center Ryan Kalil: "In all reality, it's kind of tough for him to make plays when he's got guys in his face."

that sounds like an o-line that knows they didn't give their team the best shot at winning and contributed to the mess. everyone needs to step up their play.