First Pick in the Draft

what happens if another team picks the player the Lions have negotiated with?

that would be lols

 

why, that's just not possible. This plan of bilking players out of money is foolproof and there's no way that it's going to blow up in their face. Bonus chance of ensuring success now that they've made it well known that they're going to be clowns about it.


the intention I imagine would be that the Lions have 2-3 players with contracts ready. They'd have those 2-3 picks ready. They'd let 15 minutes elapse, be standing near the podium, and see what pick 2 would give instead - and, if needed, try to beat the 2 pick to the podium if it's the one player they "can't live without". So some poor bastard may be required to stand there for up to thirty minutes near the curtain waiting for instructions.

then the hope that whoever they picked is immediately happy to take a paycut because they pulled this trick. Best of luck, Detroit! Sounds like you've figured it out and are well on the way to multiple championships! It's only a #1 overall, and the risk is high anyway, so let's try something new and unique - why chance this being a bust situation when you can guarantee it?

I actually hate it for Schwartz. I like his approach to the game, I know he's a good motivator, but he's essentially saddled with a shit team and largely incompetent management that's supposed to magically get better now that Millen's gone (it won't be).

 

Say this were the Panthers instead of the Lions. Say we wanted Raji but did not think he was worth the pay of a number 1 pick. We work out a deal that pays him like he was picked #10 and then draft him #1. Why would that not work? The only downside is that you are passing up a chance to get a player that is rated higher on your board.

 

I guess where Mags and I differ on this tactic is that he thinks it would be problematic in that the player would eventually demand #1 pick money when it comes down to it. I disagree and feel that is a function of not picking the correct player. I don't consider it a "reach" in the traditional sense because all the Lions are doing is taking a good rookie from the projected middle and paying him slightly more than he expects to make and saving yourself significant cash. I am not tied to the idea of solid slot projections and a player is picked where a player is picked, that is his slot. Much of this hinges on the fact that there is no consensus #1.

 

90% of the players already in the league aren't worth 1st pick money.

 

The word I'm hearing is that they're actually negotiating with 4 unnamed players, and they'd be happy with any of the four. Theoretically, they could pass until pick #4 and still get a player they want, while saving a butt load of money.

 

actually, where you and mags differ is this: mags knows a little bit about football, whereas you're an ignorant tool who should probably stick to cyber-sucking Barney Frank's hogleg.

 

What was the last draft where a team actually wanted the #1 pick?

I'm thinking it was SD when they drafted Eli and the dumped him - not really ideal.

Carson Palmer was a worthy pick.

This list is what GM's wake up in cold sweats about. Top 4 picks from 1999-2007. I greened who I think actually earned their contracts. I bolded and underlined the ones that damaged the franchise:

1999 - Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Edgerrin James
2000 - Courtney Brown, LaVar Arrington, Chris Samuels, PEter Warrick
2001 - Michael Vick, Leonard DAvis, Gerard Warren, Justin Smith
2002 - David Carr, Julius Peppers, JOey Harrington, Mike williams
2003 - Carson Palmer, Charles Rodgers, Andre Johnson, DeWayne Robertson
2004 - Eli Manning, Robert Gallery, Larry Fitzgerald, Phillip Rivers
2005 - Alex Smith, Ronnie Brown, Braylon Edwards, Cedric Benson
2006 - Mario Williams, Reggie Bush, Vince Young, DBrickashaw Ferguson
2007 - JaMarcus Russell, Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Gaines Adams

Looks like about a 45% chance of getting your money's worth.

25% chance of getting someone who actually damages your franchise.

Commish needs to change the rookie payscale. 45% chance of getting someone worth the money is not parity, it's punishment.

 

So what happens if the Lions decide there isn't really a #1 overall in the draft and decide to wait for a pick or two to make their selection. That leaves the Rams holding the defacto #1 pick. Why should they be any different in their thinking than the Lions? What if they decide there isn't really a #1 overall in the draft and decide to wait for a pick or two to make their selection. That would put the Chefs on the clock with the #1 pick and there still isn't anyone worthy of that money so...

 

This was debated last year, never happened. Of course Parcells is not retarded, and the Lions are.