Defensive Line Coach

It wasn't much of a surprise to the public. Why wouldn't they have sensed it too? I mean it didn't make sense but the speculation it would happen was out there.

 

Flajole got a promotion.

 

He was fired after his coaches left, based on conflicts over the new coaches - i.e., they had intended to keep him after the other coaches had left.

And, again, you're not going to tell me that Phillips, Cameron, and Chudzinski would've turned down promotions if things had been more rosy. They got opportunities from their success and would've taken them regardless. To be

There are, of course, numerous examples of coaches that have left successful teams and brought coaches with them. After the 94 season, the 49ers lost both coordinators, and many of their assistants. I can remember their line coaches staying, and a few guys being promoted. Same with the post-93 Cowboys, though that also concluded with Johnson leaving.

Or we disagree over what's an example. Never saw that coming.

It's a promotion even if it's not calling plays. Also, Ken Flajole disagrees with you. You could say that Sunseri took a step down, assistant head coach in college leads to a future head coaching job in college, a position he's eagerly sought. Tim Lewis is a direct lateral move, and we knew before he left that he was being given permission to leave for a lateral move or promotion (as was McCoy, and assumedly others as well). If you want to call Sunseri a lateral, that's fine. So that's a grand total of two. One more than the Pats, and I haven't taken a look at other franchises.


The NFL itself is laying off people, and franchises are laying off staff. I've never seen either before. I've never seen assistant coach pricetags drop, I've never seen so many new coaches in and so many established coaches out. I've never once seen 2/3rds of the defensive coordinators out of a job. But sure, I guess despite all that, and the blurbs before some of our guys left that they were being offered one-year deals and that many were free to look elsewhere, that this is all completely isolated and it's completely a flaw with the team.

I find most all of this to be very intriguing, given that it's never really happened before (I imagine since the labor stoppages). I find it odd you've completely discounted any and every bit of that, haven't even touched it and don't seem to care about it, but you're concerned with conspiracy theory that one coach has specifically said wasn't true.

 

I just posted a link from ESPN saying that everyone knew Schottenheimer was going to be fired. You really learn when to shut your mouth and stop making things worse for yourself.

True, I missed on that one. So McCoy and Flajole left for promotions, the other guys just left. You making a fool of yourself in pretending that everyone left happy helps nothing. Coaches leaving en masse is not a good sign. Superstar players refusing to even consider sticking around is not a good sign. No one here needs your smoke blowing, no matter how much you like putting your mouth up to people's asses. Take notice of the fact that no one is agreeing with you, and multiple people are telling you that you're full of shit (chip & strat are just being nicer about it than I am).

 

I don't believe they left perfectly happy. I don't believe they left because they felt Fox was going to be fired, either. The team facilitated this, and apparently these coaches were the ones they chose not to put as long term a commitment toward. We knew this well before anyone left, and the rumors were out there.

But ignore that and the fiscal climate of the NFL right now, which is at best volatile. The conspiracy theory is much better.

 

By all means, continue to pretend that the coaches & Peppers leaving says nothing bad about the state of the organization. It gives something to distract from anyone thinking about how you backed Delhomme so vociferously.

 

so there wasn't a statement how some changes could be coming, some coaches were offered one year contracts and allowed to pursue other opportunities?

Besides the paragraph(s) about the state of the league, assistant coaching, and so on that continually evade your thoughts.

 

Other teams didn't have nearly the entire defensive coaching staff choose to jump ship, most for equal or lesser jobs. But by all means, pretend that it's the economy and that it's happening to everyone.

 

yeah, we didn't let people go.
Other teams didn't let people go.
Assistant coach contracts haven't gone down suddenly.
2/3rds of the league's defensive coordinators didn't end up not having their 09 job in 08. That's not noteworthy, that happens all the time.


I figure since you're ignoring that, it didn't happen.

Since you're ignoring all that, it's worth noting you're ignoring the reports that numerous coaches that had been forced to not interview for promotions were ones that conspicuously left, and that there were reports that the team offered numerous coaches minimalist contracts and one year deals.

The only one we specifically seemed to plan to have back was Trgovac, and that screams burnout by all words he's said.

 

Show me one other defensive coordinator who voluntarily left his team to take a lesser coaching position elsewhere. Point out one or exert some common sense and shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself any further.