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Schefter and Wyche stir the pot on Smith

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Fan. Attic, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. Collin

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    No, it's a reasonable conclusion based on his own words and actions. You're free to disagree, but don't pretend that because you've spoken to him you're suddenly his psychiatrist. I have no reason to believe that you have any special talent when it comes to reading people or analyzing behavior.
    Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Do you honestly think that I of all people would believe something just because Darin Gantt said so? I'm saying that I think he's making himself out to be the victim because that's what his own words are telling me. Someone who is genuinely contrite for their actions doesn't seek to hide from them or demand that other people stop talking about it. Steve's comments show a "woe is me!" attitude where he feels put upon, like he's somehow paid his dues for his mistakes and should now be left alone.
    I don't doubt that he does. He's obviously embarrassed by the situation and sorry that it affected the team. That's not, however, the same thing as being genuinely contrite, recognizing that the incident was serious, and putting effort into changing.
    As much of an issue as it was the first time? While you're blowing smoke up people's asses, solarte, you might want to remember that this isn't Smith's first transgression. Sure, the first time you get more benefit of the doubt and people tend to buy the idea that you're committed to changing. When it happens again, however, that's when skepticism is warranted. I see absolutely nothing whatsoever to suggest that Smith understands the seriousness of what he did or that he genuinely wants to change as a person to prevent that from ever happening again. Instead I see a guy who just wishes it would all go away, and resents anyone who won't let that happen by bringing it up again.
     
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    I won't multi-quote you. It's a waste.

    I haven't forgotten his Anthony Bright incident. I'm not blowing smoke, and no, I'm no psychiatrist. I am someone who can read people.

    I am not judging anyone who agrees with you, Collin. I am no one's judge. Smith screwed up. It's over.
     
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    I think he's honestly remorseful but can't help his temper.

    I think his ego keeps him from either shutting up or "sounding" sincere about it.

    I think it's sad how Gantt is crying about not being respected by the players enough to be "in" with them. He's trying to make it about him and can't help watching from the sidelines. They don't owe him shit.
     
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    cause of temper
     

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    Maybe it's just the tone of his voice. When you hear him, he sounds pissed. When you read his words, he sounds more humble.

    It's in the past now. The best apology he can issue is burning the Vikes for six catches, about 110 yds, and two touchtowns.
     
  7. Collin

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    Steve Smith is a thug and a punk. Steve Smith will always be a thug and a punk. He deserves no sympathy and no benefit of the doubt. As long as the team believes they can use him to win games, they will, and as soon as they feel he's no longer worth the trouble he'll deservedly get dumped to the curb. Fans of the team should treat him the same way.
     
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    So are you sayin' YOU are is psychiatrist?

    I mean, I'm not arguing who (you, Mike or others) knows SS heart or him as a person, family man, husband or dad.

    He deserves no sympathy, that I agree. Being a hothead doesn't make you a punk or a thug. But since you seem to know him so well, or maybe he lays on your couch once a week, I'll defer to you about his thuggery and punkishness. Hell, half the NFL players could be considered thugs and punks too.
     
  9. Collin

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    Name another player in the league who has twice sucker-punched a teammate, causing serious medical injuries. How people act tells you who they are.
     
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    I didn't read his blog in the same tone as many apparently are. Smith has a very bad temper. Anyone who thinks that they can control their emotions all the time is just fooling themselves. My therapist quoted something to me once that she heard from a top rated shrink and it really struck her. It struck me too. I'm not quoting verbatim, but basically the greatest distance is between the head and the heart. You can intellectually know something is wrong, or you can know it's silly to be upset about something, but making your emotions agree is often beyond control. We've all been there and done that as far as having emotions that aren't reasonable or logical and we were no more in control then Smith is. Not saying we're all likely to beat the shit out of anyone, but maybe we fell in love with someone bad for us or got mad at someone over something really stupid - it's just like folks on message boards getting angry at each other over words from someone we never met - it's really stupid but we do it.

    Not saying Smitty is any sort of victim, but while I know he has a temper he can often not control - and yeah it easily can happen again, he is aware of the gravity/wrongness of the incident. Dragging it on forever doesn't help anyone. Time to work as a team.


    And Lucas's take:
    “If I said anything different to you right now, then that would make me a liar, right,” he said. “I truly believe that everything I said back whenever the day was, I truly forgave my teammate, my brother.

    “I had totally forgot about it and the only time I really talk about it is when somebody brings it up and I try to shoot it down as much as possible because that is something that passed and I don’t want to dwell on it anymore.

    So he must be a shitty victim too.
     
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