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pantherpaul: look up the scouting report on Letroy Guion

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by LarryD, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. LarryD

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    Letroy Guion
    DT | (6'3", 303, 5.32) | FLORIDA STATE
    Scouts Grade: 64




    Strengths: Has an explosive first step, regularly beats blockers to the point of attack and disrupt running plays in the backfield. Strong, stays low coming out of stance and can hold ground when he plays with sound technique. Flashes a powerful punch, has active hands and can shed blocks quickly. Shows good balance and can spin off blocks. Takes sound pursuit angles and works from snap until the whistle. Shows above-average range for size and always seems to be around the ball at the end of the play. Drives legs once in position, shows above-average lower body strength and is a powerful bull rusher that can collapse the pocket. Has steadily progressed, works hard in the weight room and should only get better with added experience.

    Weaknesses: Lacks elite size and can get engulfed by double teams. Plays with a narrow base, occasionally ducks head and can get washed down the line of scrimmage by angle blocks. Doesn't protect legs well enough and is vulnerable to cut blocks. Raw, lacks ideal experience and takes too long to locate the ball at times. Lacks ideal closing speed and is frequently step late getting to quarterback. While shows good lateral mobility and has active hands, relies on quickness to much and needs to work on using a variety of moves when rushing the passer. Lacks ideal awareness, has some problems picking up screens as well as draws and doesn't always get hands up when isn't going to get to the passer.

    Overall: Guion started in one of the ten games he appeared in during his true freshman season in 2005. In 2006, Guion started five of the 12 games he appeared in recording 25 tackles including four tackles-for-loss. Guion started in eight of the 12 games he appeared in during the 2007 season recording 31 total tackles including 17 unassisted tackles and 6.5 tackles-for-loss. He also recorded one sack and recovered two fumbles last year. Guion is raw and inconsistent but he flashes enormous potential and he's quick, strong, determined and athletic enough to develop into a valuable NFL starter if he continues to refine his technique and improve his instincts. He projects as a late first-day pick.
     
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    Demario Pressley is still out there? not that I'm on board that ship
     
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    Frank Okam?? Atyhba Rubin?? Carlton Powell??
     
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    Okam
    Strengths: Possesses a massive frame, is big enough to hold ground when teams run at him and flashes the ability to occupy multiple blockers at the point of attack. Moves well for size and shows good lateral mobility when legs are fresh. Displays the ability to disengage, find the ball and disrupt plays in the backfield. Has adequate lower body strength and can collapse the pocket as a bull rusher. Has long arms, gets hands up and can be disruptive when doesn't get to the quarterback.

    Weaknesses: Effort is far too inconsistent. Gives up on plays too easily and takes far too many plays off. He will dominate an offensive lineman one down and get pushed around by the same player the next down. Doesn't protect legs very well and leaves his feet too frequently. His anticipation skills are marginal, he lacks ideal explosiveness and he takes to long to get out of stance. Lacks ideal discipline and jumps off-sides too often. Isn't quick enough to consistently shoot gaps and doesn't show great closing speed when gets a clear path to the quarterback. Wears down quickly and needs to be spelled far too much. Despite problems with stamina and keeping weight down while at Texas, showed up to the combine far too heavy so there are questions about commitment to staying in good playing shape. Missed 2006 Baylor game with a right knee injury, slowed by abdominal injury during the 2006 season, missed 2007 spring practices after undergoing arthroscopic surgery on right knee and durability is a concern.

    Overall: Okam appeared in 37 games (26 starts) in his first three seasons at Texas (2004-'06), recording 108 tackles (17 for losses) and five sacks. As a senior in 2007, he started all 13 games at strong-side defensive tackle and finished the season with 52 tackles (11 for losses), five sacks, a force fumble and five pass breakups. He missed one game in 2006 after suffering a right knee sprain, which required arthroscopic surgery that kept Okam out of 2007 spring drills. Okam flashes the mobility and power to dominate the interior but much like Michigan's Alan Branch, whose stock plummeted leading up to the 2007 draft, Okam's motor is far too inconsistent and he's having problems keeping his weight down. With that in mind, Okam projects as a late fourth or early fifth round pick.
    Rubin
    Strengths: Has excellent bulk, has a low center of gravity and is stout at the point of attack when gets single blocked. Quick enough for a player his size, locates the ball carrier quickly and flashes the ability to disrupt running plays in the backfield when fresh. Keeps head up, shuffles feet well enough and generally does a good job of riding the hips of pulling guards when fresh. Though doesn't show great body control in space and doesn't always break down wraps up upon contact and is an adequate open field tackler. Needs to do a better job of getting under blockers pads but drives legs one in position and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Shows adequate awareness and generally gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback.

    Weaknesses: Plays with a narrow base, stands up a little too much and can get washed down the line by double teams. Shows adequate upper body strength and locks arms out once engaged but doesn't have great hand speed and generally takes too long to shed blocks. Lacks range, doesn't always take sound pursuit angles and isn't going to make many plays in pursuit. Explosiveness is adequate but not great and doesn't show great closing speed when gets a clear path to the quarterback. Takes too long to redirect, doesn't use hands all that well and doesn't show a variety of moves when rushing the passer. May carry too much weight for frame and appears to wear down at times.

    Overall: Rubin attended Trinity Valley (Texas) CC in his first two years out of high school (2004-'05), moving from the defensive line to the offensive line between his first and second seasons. He transferred to Iowa State in 2006 and joined the team in August, just before the season, moving back to the defensive line. He played all 12 games as a junior, starting the last nine, and had 34 tackles (four for losses) and a sack. As a senior last season, Rubin started all 12 games and finished the season with 42 tackles (four for losses) and 1.5 sacks. Rubin isn't going to be much of a factor rushing the passer and he would likely struggle in a one-gap scheme because he lacks prototypical top-end speed and athletic ability. There are come concerns about his endurance but he has the size and quickness to develop into an effective nose tackle once he learns to stay lower to the ground and adds some lower body strength so he projects as an early second day pick.
    Powell
    Strengths: Gets under blockers pads, plays with a wide base and can hold ground when teams run at him. Delivers a powerful punch, extends arms once in position and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Reads keys and can locate the ball carrier quickly. Gets good forward lean in stance, is aggressive and flashes the ability to make plays in the backfield. Has a mean streak and flashes the ability to jar the ball loose. Never stops working, takes adequate angles to the ball and makes some plays in pursuit. Drives legs once in position and is a relentless pass rusher that flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Durable and has excellent experience.

    Weaknesses: Doesn't always fight pressure coming from sides and can get ridden down the line of scrimmage. Lacks elite range and isn't a sideline-to-sideline player. Doesn't always wrap up upon contact, doesn't show great body control in space and is an inconsistent open field tackler. Isn't explosive enough to consistently get into the backfield when rushing the passer and doesn't show great closing speed when gets a clear path to the quarterback. Lacks elite lateral mobility, doesn't run line stunts all that well and doesn't show a variety of pass rush moves. Occasionally takes wide path to the quarterback and opens up running lane in the process.

    Overall: Powell arrived at Virginia Tech in 2003 and redshirted the year. In the next three seasons (2004-'06), he appeared in 38 games (18 starts) and recorded 68 tackles (14 for losses) and three sacks. As a senior, he started played all 13 games at left defensive tackle, starting all but one, and turned in 36 tackles (six for losses) and 2.5 sacks. He sat out one game in 2005 after suffering a right ankle sprain. Powell lacks the closing speed of a productive NFL pass rusher but he can occasionally collapse the pocket with power moves and he is stout against the run. He projects as a fifth round pick.
     
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    Pressley
    Strengths: Possesses an outstanding combination of size and speed. He is tall with adequate bulk and room left on his frame to get bigger. He has been versatile within a hybrid system that allows him to play traditional DT, as well as the DE spot in three-and-four man fronts. At his best when playing a three-technique, which allows him to use his quick first step and explosive burst to penetrate and disrupt. He shows rare closing burst to the ball carrier (and QB) for a prospect at his position. He is powerful in the upper body. Generally drives legs once in position and flashes the ability to drive offensive linemen back into the quarterback as a bull rusher.

    Weaknesses: Lacks elite bulk, plays too high and struggles to hold the point when teams run at him. Plays with a narrow base and loses balance at times. His effort can be hit and miss and needs to play with better discipline. Gets frustrated by the double team and will give up too easily at times. Gets too far upfield because he's looking to make the big play and occasionally will blow his assignment and take himself out of position. Missed two games after undergoing arthroscopic knee surgery in 2007, missed timed with a broken wrist in 2006, missed 2007 spring practices because of a toe injury and durability is a concern.

    Overall: Pressley appeared in 33 games (24 starts) in his first three seasons (2004-'06), recording 102 tackles (14 for losses) and three sacks. As a senior last season, he played 10 games (eight starts) and had 38 tackles (six for losses), 1.5 sacks and two interceptions. In 2007, he came off the bench in the opener while still recovering from torn ligaments in his left elbow, then missed the next two games after tearing meniscus tissue in his right knee in practice. In 2006, he sat out most of spring drills because of a broken toe and missed the season finale after suffering a wrist injury that required season-ending surgery. Pressley will enter the 2008 draft as one of the most experienced defensive tackles in the class and his blend of size and speed means he has a great deal of upside. However, he's yet to reach his potential and his problems staying healthy over the past two years raise a red flag. With all of that said, Pressley projects as a fourth round pick.
     
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    Barnidge!! I like this guy!!

    I guess we're gonna sign one of those free agent DT left in free agency!!
    I def coo with that!!
     
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