Quarterback situation in '08

I recall the thread. I thought at the time the comment was based on fact/rumor etc. I also recall a more recent thread in which you made a similar comment. Actually, I hope you're right. If the team knows the problem it should help them make an informed decision as to his future with the team.

 

Maybe we need new D coaches. I definitely think giving Pep a series of complicated assignments is a huge mistake. He's not dumb, but he's not smart either. And he has problems with technique. Give him a few things to concentrate on.

 

Usually, when a player plays poorly for a sustained period because of emtional issues, it doesnt get much better. People can overcome those in their lives, but playing football usually demands a lot emotionally, and people with emotional issues often don't have the required amount to draw from.

On the OL, is that a style, or an OL centered around one of those 2 players. If its a style, I'd like to hear discussion.

 

Btw, there's an ESPN/AP article on Fox's situation that includes information stating Jake is going to begin throwing mid Feb. That would be 4 months, not 6 as I posted upthread. That might mean he'd be a lot farther along by the time camp starts. Don't know how accurate the info is though, the article said Jake said that but I can't find it quoted anywhere.

 

Sure, and if you look at that out of context then it seems impressive, which is why guys like Brian Baldinger bring it up. Of course, people who actually watch the games remember that against Houston we had the one awesome drive to start the game that got everyone excited, another score following a turnover at the Houston 13, and then did absolutely nothing until Steve Smith single-handedly broke about eight tackles and took it to the house.

Look, I'm not trying to make Jake out to be anything other than what he is, which is a solid guy who makes some good plays and some bad ones. The idea that he is some kind of savior who can lift this team up and who we couldn't do anything without is just false. He's an average NFL quarterback, not some elite guy who cripples an offense by his absence. This team already had huge offensive problems before he went down, and you can confirm that by just going back and reading what everyone was saying back then. Go read the game threads.

That's not accurate at all. There are tons of star players who have suffered through awful seasons because of emotional issues and I can't think of any who failed to bounce back.

Unlikely. TJ has pretty standard recovery times. It's not like you can just speed up the process through effort, it just takes time for the body to heal and for the thrower to regain arm strength. In fact, I would much rather not hear anything about an accelerate timetable for Jake, as setbacks are common for pitchers who try to rush things.

 

From today's observer:

Delhomme said he would start throwing a Nerf ball in mid-February as he keeps rehabbing from elbow surgery.

I will reiterate Collin's point. This surgery has a very disciplined rehab and recovery schedule. Accelerating it brings a huge risk of a setback.

 

Damn Collin, how in the hell do you take the fact that we actually scored points with Delhomme, out of context? Is that the same logic that tells you that the fact that Carr sucking the life out of the team, came from the play calling?

You are a real piece of work.

 

Shut the fuck up, you useless ass. No one cares what you think, and no one cares that you resent me for making you feel like an idiot. Either deal with your feelings or put me on ignore, but stop being a douche and reminding people how upset you are that I hurt your feelings.

 

You're a funny little fat boy, aren't ya?

Maybe one day I'll teach you how football is played, so you can actually make some sense.

 

I think there's a point in which the assumption becomes greater than what's being said. I don't necessarily think that anything being positive said about Delhomme must automatically come with a waiver, caveat, or asterik. The assumption that Delhomme being out was the only problem, well, that's incorrect, and anyone making the decisions would be wise to stay away from a simplified version of that thinking.

But none of us make the decisions for this team, and if someone wants to praise Delhomme for singular solid play and making some plays out there before he got hurt, there's nothing wrong with that. Regardless of what anyone wants to say about him summarily, he's still a guy that makes plays.