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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by PantherPaul, Dec 26, 2006.

  1. Clay

    Clay Full Access Member

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    They don't resent feeling inferior - they simply don't like you. Your feeling of superiority spurns you to be arrogant which generates the reaction that you parse as resentment. It's not. The closest anyone comes to feeling resentment is actually their disdain for your arrogance.

    The same way that you can be an asshole without being brilliant, you can be brilliant without being an asshole.

    Your behavior, not your "superiority", is what makes you a target.

    Take me for example. I've said multiple times that you know more football (and probably other things) than I do. That really doesn't bother me, as I'm sure that there are a multitude of things that I'm "superior" to you in. What does bother me is your behavior, your arrogance, and your treatment of people you feel are inferior. There's no resentment, there's just a little disappointment that you make the choice to be unpleasant.

    But that's just my opinion.
     
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    Collin, if I go to a doctor because I have some problem that I don't know the solution to, do you think I "feel inferior?" If I go to lawyer to help me resolve some issue because I know he has the greater expertise, do you think I "feel inferior?" The answer in both cases is a resounding "No."

    I have no problem whatsoever with individuals knowing something more about something than I do. It affects me negatively not one iota. What you are describing is yourself and your reaction in that situation perhaps, but certainly not me.

    The fact is, you are a sociopathic asshole. In real life, I would ignore you until the point that I couldn't anymore, and like a mosquito I would swat you until you STFU. But unfortunately, I cannot do that in this forum. So here is to the hope that the mods remove your disruptive, disrespectful ass from my consciousness so that I might continue to enjoy this fine forum without your presence.
     
  3. McFly41

    McFly41 Work Hard...PLAY HARDER!

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    Collin will not be removed nor should he be. If assholes could fly, this place would be an airport...remove the assholes and the discussions would never get off the ground.

    This thread left football behind about 20 post ago, end it!
     
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    Not one of my post has had more validity because of your insults and I doubt anybody elses does either. If anything it relates to knowledgeable posts by Magnus, Piper, and even yourself.

    I find this hard to believe. If you did not care about convincing them about your point you wouldnt feel the need to insult them in the first place. Your insulting them to decrease stupid posts, but why do you care about that? If you hold posts to high standards, stop using not caring as an excuse. Explain it to them and if you do not have the time then move on. You know better than anyone that using attacking persuasion is illogical and discredits your opinion in the mind of others, no matter how right you are.

    Nobody likes to be wrong and reactions will be different towards that, but why waste your time attacking people when it takes more of your time to respond to hateful messages.
     
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    Yuck Sweet Pea

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    This thread isn't about Michael Vick anymore, is it?
     
  6. rake

    rake Need one of these

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    not a dog person myself, and I haven’t actually witnessed this but according to many dog experts dogs will often try to piss higher on a wall (or an object) than the last dog(s) that pissed there in an attempt to try and assert their dominance. “Woof, If I contort myself and strain with everything I got Rrrrrow, maybe Duke, Fido, and the others might think I’m bigger and better than them, Grrrrrr”.
    There has consistantly been a great deal of acrobatic handstand pissing going on in this forum. However, the more you try and piss up a wall while standing on your hands the more piss you are going to get on yourself . . . or something like that

    dig???


    :brickwall: :piss:
     
  7. dig-it

    dig-it Property taxes are a damn scam...

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    What?:newsmile10:
     
  8. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    You can refuse to believe it, but the evidence is undeniable. Yes, the manner in which I correct someone generates additional ill will, but the overriding factor is that people resent being corrected and will resent it regardless of the manner in which that correction is presented. For you to pretend that people don't mind feeling inferior is obviously ludicrous. What you're trying to do is say something absurd just to make sure that I realize how people respond to my abrasive manner. That's not necessary, as I already understand that as a separate issue. Your mistaken assumption is that they would not respond poorly to me if I were nicer, but as I have explained, I've tested that theory experimentally and I know it to be wrong. There is a degree of difference, but fundamentally it's the act of correction that bothers people more than the insults.

    Obviously another problem is that you think you have an understanding of this that I don't. You don't. You believe that because you're still under the mistaken impression that I don't realize how the nature of my responses affects people, when the truth is that I understand it quite a bit better than you do since it's a subject I've had interest in and looked at for quite a while now.


    It's a false analogy. You choose to submit to the doctor's authority, and it's not as if you go into office and say "I think cancer could be cured thusly" only to have the doctor correct you. People who come to me for my opinion do not generally resent me giving it, unless they have some preconceived notion of what I'll say and do not like it when their expectations aren't met. No, I'm talking about situations where someone proposes an idea and that idea is exposed as illogical and invalid. Again, go back to Thelt's Kemoeatu thread. He was convinced that Kemoeatu could be an asset in the pass rush and I (for me anyway) politely corrected him time after time. He didn't like what I said, he resented being corrected, and he rejected my opinion in favor of his own while pretending we just disagreed and he wasn't obviously wrong. He continued that belief right up until the point that I humiliated him. Have you seen him suggest that Kemoeatu will help the pass rush since then? No.
    The forum is "fine" in large part because I'm here. It's a simple fact that magnus and I possess extraordinary knowledge, and that without such excellence that the forum would be just like any other of a hundred Panthers fan sites filled with nonsensical ramblings from fans who don't have the slightest clue what they're talking about. And sooner or later I'd prefer that you believe that I don't actively court conflict like 49erpi, it's simply that I don't care if I offend you. When I insult someone, it's generally not because I hate them and want them to feel pain, and it's certainly not that I somehow get off on putting other people down and somehow need that to boost my ego. When I insult someone, the intent is almost always to just get them to shut up and stop saying stupid things. Take how you used to post more PFT stuff, for instance. Most of it was stupid, and therefore annoying. Mocking you for posting such stupid things was intended to decrease the amount of stupid things I was exposed to.


    I prefer that the majority of people share valid views. But as the old saying goes, you can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink. I can state something that is evidently true, and I can even spend inordinate time proving that through various forms of evidence. What I can't do is make anyone choose to accept that truth. No amount of polite cajoling will get that done, and in lieu of that my goal is to establish the supremacy of the truth. If Person X believes something stupid, I'd rather educate them, but if that fails then I'd rather just make sure that the stupidity is confined to them and not passed on to others. As noted, for valid opinions to preserve value, they must be differentiated from invalid opinions.
    That's where you're wrong. You believe that because you have been taught that, but if you consider the issue logically then you will see why that view is fundamentally flawed. "Being nice" is not really about preserving the validity or righteousness of your view at all, it's simply a means by which society protects social harmony. Me saying "It would be ever so nice if you would agree that X is X" gives no more credit to my opinion than saying "Dumfuck, it's obvious that X is X." The former simply preserves decorum, even if that comes at the cost of correctness. You've certainly had your share of teachers who were rude or curt or whatever, and while you may have resented their manner I have no doubt that you learned according to the validity of their teachings. Surely you've also heard any number of athletes talk about how they may have initially chafed under a coach but acknowledged that the gruff, demanding manner actually helped them learn more and achieve more over the long run.
     
  9. Art Vandelay

    Art Vandelay Bolt Up

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    Collin,
    Shut the fuck up.
     
  10. Clay

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    All I can say is that we've had a conversation and I don't feel the need to strangle you like I normally do. I am appreciative that you have kept things civilized.

    Regardless, I give up. Neither of us are going to change the other one's minds, and since both of us are trying to substantiate opinions, this is not surprising.

    Do you ever watch the tv show House M.D.? The House character reminds me a great deal of you.
     

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