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Evidence, proof, whatever. It was a damn designed play.

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Purrsecutioner, Sep 17, 2006.

  1. PantherFanz

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    Why does he have to be a liar to assume responsibility? Every Captain is supposed to go down with his ship regardless of who sunk it. I would never pretend to call him a liar. I have full respect for him doing what I feel he is doing which is being a leader and coach. But it just is what it is...
     
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    magnus is just being an ass because he wants to disagree with me about everything lately. He knows as well as everyone that Fox doesn't approve every Henning call or Trgovac call, much less every Crossman call. He trusts his coaches to make those decisions themselves.
     
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    And takes responsibility accordingly. I mean we should all get down on our knees and pray to have bosses like that.

    Now if everyone wants to feel good about things for just a moment. Just imagine same scenario with that little punk Mora Jr as the coach. Or even Jon Gruden. Would have probably been a lot of ass chewing to appease the barbaric nature in us fans, but at the end of the day little productive effort moving forward.
     
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    If he says he knew about the call, then he knew. If not, he lied. He knew about the call. He has no reason not to know about the call or have input on the call, and he has no reason to lie about it.
    Of course, this all has nothing to do with Collin, but don't tell him that.
     
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    Seriously, every other person on the planet except you and Purr gets that Fox might take responsibility for a call he knew nothing about at the time in order to take heat off of his players and coaches. I'm fine with you believing that he did know, but to pretend there was no reason for him to say so is just illustrating your bias here.
     
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    Well I do not want to get in the middle of a pissing match, but I just gotta say you are getting a little too hung up on semantics regarding the lie.

    I do not believe he ordered the call, but I accept the fact that he is willing to say he did in order to 'coach' a player and even spent 3 hours of my time writing a blog that judges him on said call.

    Quite honestly I need to have faith that he did not make the call. I makes me respect him. If he did indeed make that call at that time in the game then we all have a great deal to worry about this season.
     
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    I'd expect Crossman to ask/inform immediately prior to that play, but we do not know for sure that's what happened.

    IMO Fox left some wiggle room as far as is he outright lying or not. I don't think it's possible for any of us to absolutely know.
     
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    I know he might take heat, but he didn't. There's no reason for there to be a call like this that any head coach wouldn't know about, much less that he writes out the agendas for practices that included this play.
     
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    I don't expect it to matter whether he called the play himself or not - which I don't expect he did. He was in on the call, knew it was happening, and had the option to veto the play.


    Why? He's not infalliable. He can make bad calls, just as can Henning. As can anyone.
     
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    It was the level of bad call. This was not a bad call like going for it on a 4th and 1 or going for 2 points instead of 1. The call was reckless and the sign of desperation. It is only week 2, way too early to be a desperate coach. Jo thanks, I shall sleep quite soundly in my ignorance on the matter.
     

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