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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Foxman, Mar 2, 2006.

  1. gridfaniker

    gridfaniker Loathsome

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    and then you infested the board with it.

    thanks a fucking lot.




    BTW, tags is taking a dump in 15 minutes.
     
  2. mathmajors

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    It will be a presser, too.
     
  3. meatpile

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    60%+ of revenues for the players is fucking insane.
     
  4. Foxman

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    He had the presser so it wasnt bad info after all. Geez, someones having a bad day.
     
  5. Foxman

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    I agree. I would love to earn 60% of the income I generate for my company. Hell I'd be thrilled with 30% thruth be told.
     
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    That really is a lot if you think about it. The players didn't have to lay down a quarter billion dollars to get the right to be in the league.

    But that's where things are. It'd be different if owners were unified in this, and it'd be easy to say "cut the difference, go to 58% and worry about 2008 in 2008." But they're not.
     
  7. kshead

    kshead What's the spread?

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/03/01/labor.deal.qa/1.html

    SI.com: Are you saying that the NFL is not going to become like baseball, with tremendous difference in teams' ability to put competitive teams on the field?

    KING: That's exactly what I'm saying. In baseball, the Yankees can spend $210 million on players, while a team in its own division, Tampa Bay, spends about $35 million. In the NFL, even if Daniel Snyder takes in $300 million over the course of the year and buys up five premier free agents every year, even the teams at the bottom of the financial totem pole -- e.g., Buffalo, Jacksonville -- will have $160 to $170 million of gross revenue to play with. Obviously, it won't be as egalitarian a system as the one the league has now. And it won't be as good a system, but we're not headed for any sort of football Armageddon. And don't let anyone tell you differently.


    I'm not sure whether it's football Armageddon or not. But I am sure that it's one of the biggest reasons why I don't follow baseball anymore. And good luck selling it to the fans of the teams that will become the equivalent of Milwaukee in baseball.
     
  8. Foxman

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    That was the exact point of my Poll yesterday. I realize it wont happen overnight, but over time it would denegrate into something similar to MLB, maybe not to that degree, but far from the equality that we have enjoyed for the past decade+

    I do agree with some of the team owners concerns that some teams are earning more revenue that they are able to use that additional money for higher signing bonuses IE: Washington v/s Arizona and this is part of the issue.
     
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    Wednesday, March 01, 2006

    NFL players are in for a rude awakening
    At the risk of being accused of carrying the water for the NFL owners, I've looked at this thing from a lot of different angles and I've come to the conclusion that the players are out of their ever-lovin' minds.

    If the collective bargaining agreement isn't extended by tonight, the league goes into an uncapped year in 2007. Now, I'm sure that the players -- and their agents -- are just drooling over the possibility of money flowing like water, but consider what the players must deal with in 2007:

    --- Unrestricted free agency starts after six years, not four years.

    --- Each team will be given an additional tag (franchise or transition), which means each team will have two now. And that means the best available free agent on each team will be the third-best veteran with six years of experience or more.

    (And remember, teams won't have any problem with tagging both players because there are no cap restrictions. That lack of a cap can work both ways.)

    In the end, it's going to mean that there's no salary cap for free agents, but just how many players are actually going to be free?

    --- Also, at the start of the uncapped year, the league no longer pays health insurance, severence pay, retirement benefits or contributes to the 401k plan (the league matched dollars on a two-to-one ratio).

    --- And here's something I haven't heard a lot of people talk about: the possibility of the players getting locked out in 2008 is huge. Which means that the owners aren't going to put a nickel of guaranteed money into any contract of the 2008 year or beyond.

    I really believe that when the players realize the full ramifications of this 'great' uncapped year, they're going to be furious -- not just with their union but with their agents for not clueing them in.

    And here's another way the agents dropped the ball -- why in the world would any junior come out early this year? Let's take a look at Vince Young. If he had stayed in college, he'd be coming out next year when there is no cap. Now, he's coming into a league where half the teams have no cap space and bonuses are amortized over only four years. I don't care what Leigh Steinberg said on ESPN, rookie salaries are going to plummet.

    Under this new system, it appears the best -- the only? -- way to strike it rich is with a rookie contract. There are just too many restrictions for veterans down the road.

    Now, some agents, I'm sure, believed a new CBA would be reached -- and one might still be. But consider this: If a new deal isn't struck, there will likely be a lot of rookies this season who will hold out the entire year and wait until next season. And it'll be hard to blame them.

    Fans, get prepared. If the two sides don't come to their senses by Thursday night, this is going to be one big, ugly mess.
     
  10. Collin

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    Oakland and Minnesota hardly take in any money, but they have strong fanbases because they win. Meanwhile the Arizona Cardinals have no fans even with a salary cap because they consistently lose.
     

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