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Running "Half the coaches in the league are all but fired" commentary

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by magnus, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. magnus

    magnus Chump-proof

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    Williams does seem pretty awful, yeah. And even better, the idea that Snyder will pay a matching contract to make him stay as DC.
    There's some equating between leading a team and leading a unit, though I think it's more habit than anything. There really isn't much of a way to project that success at all, no. But it's a more natural progression to be moved up from position coach to coordinator to HC, so as flawed as it is, I don't know it'll ever change. Guys like Herm Edwards being promoted all the way up will still always be a small chance of happening, no matter how deserved.
     
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    They say in an average year 7 teams will change coaches. This year it is already up to 6. Those there are still out there Norv Turner, Mike Mularkey, Brian Billick, Jim Haslett Herm Edwards, and The Big Tuna. I had heard Haslett wants out of the Saints job but they didn't want him to leave. I really think Herm Edwards would like to get out of NY. And only Parcells knows what he will do. Possible 12 guys out of a job. My personal thought are alot of bad teams will get worse because of the lack of true talent out there. Some of these guys will get a shot this year but they really don't hgave the skills to lead a team.
     
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    Haz gone.
     
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    not unexpected.
    Sheppard might make a good QBs coach pickup for somebody.
     
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    I don't know if there has ever been a more over-hyped defense than this year's Redskins unit. Their rushing defense is average, and 21st in the NFL in sacks.

    Only 16 interceptions in 16 games. 28 takeaways, good for 17th in the league.

    It's not a bad unit at all, but Gregg Williams is not exactly Bud Carson.
     
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    Perhaps Foxy can make room for his buddy here. Don't know where, but he could prove valuable.
     
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    would be hard. Any involvement would be kinda undermining to Trgo. Plus, I'd be surprised if he didn't get another job. Mention of Buffalo (personally, I think it's odd as hell to want to get rid of Mularkey right now) makes sense, considering his ties there.
     
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    Yep. Would look bad. I just know that Fox and Haz are close, and apparently Haz and Mora are too. Who knows.

    There is more to being a head coach than what your units were ranked as a OC/DC. Gregg Williams is not head coach material, IMO. Has great enthusiasm, but did not/does not seem to have "it." Dom Capers just doesn't have "it."

    Fox has it. Taking a 1-15 team to a Super Bowl in 24 months is having "it." There is almost a consensus from current and former players/assistants/GM's/owners that Fox has the inate ability to get the most out of every player. Mara raved about Fox for years before his death. Strahan, Armstead, Sehorn--all said they would go to war with the guy. I believe it was Strahan that said he would take a bullet for John Fox.

    I consider myself fortunate as a Panthers fan to have a head coach that has his shit together. Skipper is a big (and often overlooked) key. Very keen on clock management issues.
     
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    Trgo has a lot more leadership than most give him credit for. He just doesn't wear aviator sunglasses and go piss on the backs of players every series.

    Whether he could organize a full team? Hard to say. Whether his schemes for offense and defense work together? Whether he has the coaching ability to overcome being a defense-only guy for his entire career? ...and so on?

    no idea.
     
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    Apples and oranges. Capers went 12-4 with a bunch of rejects (hard-working rejects, but still rejects) and got to the NFC Championship game, so let's not lump him with Williams (Capers had organizational and management skills that Williams appears to lack). Capers went downhill in a hurry after being given authority over personnel decisions, and in Houston he never really had a chance to win given the talent level. I wouldn't argue that Capers is a good coach, but he's a legitimate HC, unlike Gregg Williams. I think you're mistaking enthusiasm for "it," which is a dangerous thing to do given that the same tag was applied to Belichick. Mora Jr has enthusiasm, but I don't think he's a good HC.
     

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