Tony Dungy son died

Didn't you know, he is a master of none, but a jackoff of all.



Now back to the subject.

His son gets a 3 until we know more about what happened.

 

Well said.

 

Okay, a perspective from someone who has been professionally diagnosed with major recuring depression. First of all, saying anything critical of suicides only hurts those behind. Yes, it is a selfish act, but sometimes there are those who don't truly intend to kill themselves - they try but they want someone to save them. It can be a desperate cry for help that sometimes is "too successful". Maybe he's tried before (that is if this isn't drug related), maybe he was giving off signals no one saw in time, we just don't know.

My husband doesn't understand depression at all - most who don't suffer from it perceive it as "you had a really bad day but now you should snap out of it". It's hard to understand this black hole that folks fall into and can't get out of. They think depressed folks are just sitting around enjoying feeling sorry for themselves and can't see that no matter what they or those around them do, they're going to be depressed - they can't help it, they're not doing it on purpose - it isn't pouting.

I've had periods where I honestly felt so miserable that I didn't want to keep on living, but fortunately I've never stepped past that to "I want to die" - that may not make any sense, but it's the tiny line that separates those who do actually try to kill themselves and those who keep going.

While I agree suicide is cruel and selfish, I also can't help but feel sadness for James. In the meantime, I'll pray for the Dungy family. Sadly the holidays are VERY hard for anyone suffering from depression.

 

If you scroll this quickly it looks like a bunch on Colt's horseshoe's.

 

Suicide is selfish as fuck. It doesn;t mean I want them to burn in hell.

It's a tragedy, but it's undoubtledly selfish. It's arguably the single most self-absorbed act possible.

It's no where near as fucked up as using the '3' out of context.

 

Well, for the record, I pulled a J Kerry and voted for a 3 before I voted against it.

 

WTF??? Ill be sure to tell a 90 year old who needs bypass surgery not to have it because there are people without health care out there.

To argue a point is one thing is fine, but stupid logic absolutely annoys me.

ANy why call for someone to burn in hell? Arent you supposed to be somewhat christian? What the fuck is that? Good God, man, people are ridiculous.

 

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea that if a 90 year old neglects his health that will somehow help an irresponsible 35 year old with four kids he probably couldn't afford.

 

For one, thoughts and prayers with Dungy. Of course, and his family. Obviously I hope his son's soul is free somewhere.


FOr the record, all this suicide is selfish stuff is certainly true. It is. But to hear idiots out there saying fuck them, and that they deserve to burn in hell becaue they are cowards, youre wrong. Is it selfish? Yes. Is it cowardly? Depends on your perspective. You gotta be somewhat ballsy to know youre going to kill yourself.

I lost my best friend two August 19ths ago to suicide. I loved this guy more than my brother, and it was absolutely devistating to me. It still is. But this guy was no coward. Some human beings can handle different things better than others, and in this particular case, what happened to him, was something that he couldnt handle. He tried. He got help. He worked at it, but he just couldnt do it. He tried suicide the first time, and barracaded the doors with chair, but his dad broke in his apartment and found him. He again got help, but its like he was gone. His soul was dead, and I saw the change in him. He wasnt Johnny anymore. He was a shell, still living and breathing, he'd smile and laugh, but his eyes were dead. And he was finally successful late at night when his family were asleep, because they made him move back in with them so they could keep an eye on him.

I read every letter he wrote. And it was sheer agony. He detailed how the pain he experienced even took him by surprise, and shamed him. But it was too intense, and made him throw up time and time again. It was emotional pain, btw, not physical. But I wont, and cant call him a coward. And if any of you face to face with me did so, Id pound you so bad youd piss your pants, and that is true. Some commit suicide because theyre chickenshits, yeah. Not all do.

Dont put all who do that in one category. It has nothing to do with him being my friend, it has to do with when someone experiences a level of misery that some of us dont, and the body handles it differently, they make irrational and sometimes terrible decisions.

 

Move to Europe somewhere when you retire and you will find out.