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Marquise Lee

Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by Shocker, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. Shocker

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    Anyone that would take a chance on him? Seems risky as hell, I think he'll drop much more than the Soph year would suggest. However...when he is healthy and into things he is a difference maker. I mean is there any chance he last till round 3 (not our pick but top of the 3rd)? I think it is very possible, the WR depth is ridiculious not to mention the rest of the positions.
     
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  2. Collin

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    No, he'll definitely go in 1 or 2 because he's NFL-ready. He's perfect for a team with an already set passing attack that needs a dependable complementary option. I could see the Saints taking him with their first pick.
     
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    If we go WR in round 1 I'd like to see us take Davante Adams. He's not a burner, but he's strong and know how to use it, has good quickness and the most fantastic hands in the draft. Strong hands with great eye-hand coordination. Can extend in any direction to snatch balls out of the air at the edge of his catch radius. Excels at the back shoulder throw, can contort and twist his body to make the catch....a great WR for Cam....will make Cam look good.
     
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    His pro day 40 helps because if he is a 4.45 guy he'll be a good one. His vertical isn't bad. It wouldn't kill me if we ended up with him. I am referring to Davante Adams. Not Lee.

    Lee had some special explosion to his game that I didn't see last year and don't see now. I'd probably stay away in this draft and go with another guy. With that said, I think he'll drop to late 2 early 3rd and maybe even later.

    Looking at the WRs in this draft how many are:
    Size: 6 ft in heels probably not more like 5'10
    Speed: 4.45 at best
    Hands: Decent but he does body catch and has too many drops for a #1 or maybe even #2.
    Injury prone: CHECK yes
    Frame: Slight at best

    He'll drop compared to these other WRs.
     
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    When looking at his combine #s don't obsess over his 4.56 40. He had a very good 3-cone time and vertical which tell me he has the quickness to get free (and you can see it on tape) and can play bigger than he is.
     
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    If you are talking about Adams, completely agree with you. Adams does everything good. However, lots of WRs have been that way and lacked speed and have failed. Adams' production is crazy so I doubt he busts (and yes the spread offense inflates stats but WRs that can catch it, can catch it). He is better than LaFell already without question. He'd be a good pick.

    Also, the more I watch him the more I think Jordan Matthews is very much like Mushin Muhammad. I hope he is a little faster but he is very similar. Jordan has enough size and enough speed to go with good instincts to be great. Plus, he CANNOT fail in his own mind. I love this player.
     
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  7. Collin

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    Both Adams and Matthews have considerable bust potential and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. It's difficult for receivers who struggle to create separation to succeed in the NFL. To do so they'll need to win a lot of contested passes, which maybe they can, but the idea is far from assured.
     
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    If you consider them busts we HAVE to pick them. You know nothing and have no mojo with this shit. You state the obvious and btw we are picking at #28 not #1. No player is perfect. Matthews or Adams vs Ellington? You have got to be fucking kidding me.

    Ellington had the QB. So did Adams. Matthews NO. Adams had crazy stats. Matthews did it for 3 yrs in the best conference with "who" QB.
    Really no comparison...Ellington is a late round "chance" pick with a guy trying to look smart. Look at these other WRs without the bullshit goggles. MUCH better prospects.

    With all the talk: OL is the most important position. I would go into next year with these WRs. Did anyone notice we sucked at WR last yr? 12-4 was awesome. Gettleman has been awesome.

    Somebody please watch the Seattle vs Panthers game last year. There was literally 2 catches made by Seattle that mattered. I am overstating but no one can get caught up in positions. Its about IMPACT. Our defense is awesome but Hardy is a 1 yr loan basically. DE is NOT out of the equation here.

    Looking at Gettleman and predicting this draft:
    The first player we draft will be a lineman. Could be DE, OT or G.
    Second player taken will probably be a lineman or DB.
    Later, WR\TE ( and that player will have SIZE) and he will take someone that nobody is thinking. Someone like DeAnthony Thomas (multipurpose...pass catching weapon) is definatley in play later. (as Stewart is GONE next off season)
     
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    Why are you always picking fights with people way out of your league?

    Someone more intelligent than you are might have noticed that I've never suggested taking Ellington at #28 or even #60.

    And if someone was drafting WRs to play against college competition I' be right there with you.

    Actually it's precisely because the few people who post at this board are more perceptive and knowledgeable than you are that most of them didn't see that last year. People who possess more sophisticated football awareness than you do noticed that Shula's offense was crippling the production from the wideouts. His route tree was atrocious.
     
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    Why are you wasting your time? There is NO real opinion there. You stay safely on the sidelines. You have been and will continue to be a poser. State your shit and move on. Stop piggie backing Colon. Seriously..

    And yes, I realize you think you are somewhat of a head shit around this board. There is like 10 people here. But you have been wrong for like years. You have always fucked with people and never been right. Take your pill and chill man.
     
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