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Discussion in 'Carolina Panthers' started by HeadCase, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. HeadCase

    HeadCase dazed and confused

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    Post Combine Top 32

    The combines are done and now we moves into pro-days. NFL draft boards are taking shape. So who are to top 32 players gracing draft boards. We’ve gotten some insight from around the league and this is how it stacks up for teams.

    1.Andrew Luck-QB-Stanford
    2.Robert Griffin-QB-Baylor
    3.Dontari Poe-NT-Memphis
    4.Melvin Ingram-OLB-South Carolina
    5.Trent Richardson-RB- Alabama
    6.Justin Blackmon-WR-Oklahoma State
    7.Morris Claiborne-CB-LSU
    8.Fletcher Cox-DT-Mississippi State
    9.Quinton Coples-DE-North Carolina
    10.David DeCastro-OG-Stanford
    11.Dre’ Kirkpatrick-CB-Alabama
    12.Michael Brockers-DT-LSU
    13.Jonathan Martin-OT-Stanford
    14.Michael Floyd-WR- Notre Dame
    15.Cordy Glenn-OL-Georgia
    16.Devon Still-DT- Penn State
    17. Whitney Mercilus-DE- Illinois
    18.Coby Fleener-TE- Stanford
    19.Nick Perry-DE- USC
    20.Luke Kuechly-LB- Boston College
    21.Kevin Zeitler-OG- Wisconsin
    22.Ryan Tannehill-QB- Texas A&M
    23.Doug Martin-RB- Boise State
    24.Jerel Worthy-DT- Michigan State
    25.Bobby Wagner-LB- Utah State
    26.Stephon Gilmore-CB- South Carolina
    27.Kendall Wright-WR- Baylor
    28.Dwayne Allen-TE- Clemson
    29.Donte’ Hightower-LB- Alabama
    30.Kendall Reyes-DT- UConn
    31.Stephen Hill-WR- Georgia Tech
    32.Riley Reiff-OG- IowaNotes


    - Stanford has four players in the top 32.

    - Courtney Upshaw and Mark Barron are not ranked in the top 32.

    - Janoris Jenkins does not make the list.

    - Reiterating what we posted from Indianapolis, more and more teams starting to grade Riley Reiff as a guard.

    - This is not our list, rather a list from what a number of teams board(s) look like; don’t kill the messenger!!
     
  2. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    This could have been posted in the other thread, plus it's incredibly fucking retarded. Anyone who has Poe at #3 should be barred from saying anything about the draft for the rest of their life, under penalty of death by Rosanne Barr face-sitting.


    Holy shit, that's from TFY. How embarrassing for them.
     
  3. buck nasty

    buck nasty Full Access Member

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    now that's a fucking threat.
     
  4. Black&Blue_

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    I'm getting really tired of hearing Ryan Tannehill's name.
     
  5. meatpile

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    Watch - we'll trade up for Poe, and you'll need a new TV.

    :sultan:
     
  6. HeadCase

    HeadCase dazed and confused

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    Eric Galko ‏ @OptimumScouting

    this draft class has 6 Top 10 worthy guys, then a host of mid-late 1st guys. Few elite, safe prospects.

    top 6?
    Luck
    RGIII
    Richardson
    Kalil
    Claiborne
    ??
     
  7. Collin

    Collin soap and water

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    Could be discounting Blackmon because his height and speed are just average, but I still think the dude is a high level playmaker. Richardson is also hurt by the fact that teams widely believe that you don't need to spend a high pick to get quality at RB. I don't get why people are knocking Reiff, though. I think it's fair to say he might be a better OT than Kalil, it just depends on the scheme (Kalil is a better pass blocker, but somewhat suspect as a run blocker - a la D'Brickashaw Ferguson coming out of Virginia).
     
  8. HeadCase

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    i been reading that he has short arms and that a lot of scouts are now projecting him to guard

    When evaluating OTs, scouts look at more than a player’s size. Wes Bunting
    Print This March 08, 2010, 02:15 PM EST ..
    Every year, NFL prospects strip down to their underwear and are paraded around in front of NFL scouts and executives in an event known as the weigh-in. This is the first time official heights and weights are taken on each player. But two other important pieces of information are also recorded that have as much bearing on how “big” a potential NFL prospect can play: reach (the length of a prospect’s arm) and hand size (the length from the pinkie finger measured to the thumb).

    Football is a contact sport in which collisions take place on every play. Most NFL players are asked to win battles at the point of attack, and the players with the biggest frames and longest reaches have a clear advantage when engaging an opposing player.

    The reach or arm length of a prospect is a key attribute to any position, especially those playing on the line of scrimmage. However, at no position is reach more vital than at the offensive tackle spot. To explain how offensive linemen can be affected by length, I want to take a look at two former prospects with similar height/weight numbers who have taken different paths in their NFL careers.

    OT Adam Terry (Baltimore Ravens) and OT Marcus McNeill (San Diego Chargers) are former second-round picks (Terry in 2005, McNeill in 2006) who each measured 6-8 and weighed about 330 pounds at their combine appearances. However, the key difference at each player’s weigh-in was the discrepancy in the length of their reaches. McNeill’s measured 35½ inches; Terry posted a reach of 32¼ inches. So we have two men who are roughly the same size, but McNeill has the length to match and maximize his 6-8 frame, while Terry’s length forces him to play like a tackle closer to 6-3.

    There are other variables to be considered when judging a prospect’s potential, but the facts are that McNeill has been the Chargers’ starting left tackle each of the past four years, while Terry, who’s coming off a season-ending injury in 2009, looks more like a reserve-type offensive lineman for the Ravens. Again, there are other variables that go into comparisons like these, but you have to figure the 3-inch-plus reach advantage has to be a significant reason why one player has been so successful in the NFL and the other has not.

    To put this into perspective, I broke down this year’s top left tackle prospects to give you a better idea which linemen have NFL-worthy arm length and which ones will likely struggle playing to their listed size. But before we get to that, I constructed a range of arm lengths for the OT position only to put each measurement into context.

    “Great” Arm Length (35-plus inches)
    D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Jets, 2006 (35½ inches)
    Ryan Clady, Broncos, 2008 (36 inches)

    “Good” Arm Length (34 inches - 34 7/8 inches)
    Jammal Brown, Saints, 2005 (34¼ inches)
    Jeff Otah, Panthers, 2008 (34 5/8 inches)

    “OK” Arm Length (33 inches - 33 7/8 inches)
    Michael Roos, Titans, 2005 (33 5/8 inches)
    Levi Brown, Cardinals, 2007 (33 1/8 inches)

    “Below-Average” Arm Length (32 inches - 32 7/8 inches)
    Robert Gallery, Raiders, 2004 (32 ¼ inches)
    Chris Williams, Bears, 2008 (32 ¾ inches)


    reiff has 33.25"
    kalil has 34.5"
     
  9. presidence99

    presidence99 This MARRIAGE?

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    Reiff's arms are the same length as Gross and bigger than Chad Clifton.
     
  10. rake

    rake Need one of these

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    does anyone here see a realistic possibility of Reiff lasting to our pick?
     

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