Offensive talent

Or in games where we have to play call around him because of games he turned the ball over.

 

we played the first half ultra conservatively because we had a lead (but didn't have a clue). We didn't play it conservatively because of Jake, or else we wouldn't have thrown the ball 30 times.

 

Agree here, except I do believe that we should open it up and let him throw. If they claim to have confidence in him, they should let him throw. Fuckin Jay Feeley can hand off, and at least other teams aren't sure if he'll throw or not. I say if you put Jake in, expect him to perform like an NFL QB, and gameplan as if he can...otherwise don't fucking put him in.

 

So the way we called plays with a big lead, and without one, don't hold weight? I'd say they matter a pretty fucking good bit.

and no, 17/30 isn't his best. Is it good enough to win? Sure. Were there a bunch of balls that inept (80) and theoretically talented (34) receivers flubbed? Yeah.


There have been times I've been done with him. Didn't want to see him anymore. This wasn't one of those times. Point taken - you're absolving some other pieces. That will be great - for next year. I'm more interested in this one.

 

Can't argue there.

Home game against a heated rival. I don't see this ending well.

 

You are really going to say they didn't throttle him way back? He threw some ridiculously low number of passes in the first half. If you didn't see that they were throttling his attempts, you are the only one.

 

He wasn't horrible, no. But my point is if we are going to hand the ball off even in definite passing situations(which is fine when it works), then our QB position is no longer really a skill position. It's more like the Center, and if we are throttling Jake, which I believe we are...the they really don't have confidence in him and should let Moore or Feeley take snaps. Or run the wildcat without a QB on the field.

 

They absolutely matter. For someone who coined the term 'fromunda', you're awfully forgiving.

Until we were down by 10 points with 2 minutes left and zero timeouts, we threw 21 balls and ran it 36 times. This is consistent with the week before, when we did not complete a pass in the second half.

Jake had one good passing drive that resulted in a field goal when we ran on 3rd and 3 and lost 2 yards. That was a nice drive, except for the field goal ending.

This was the fromunda at it's finest. And unlike years past, where Delhomme had the magic ju-ju and led magical, awesome, gunslinging drives that nullified the fromunda, he just doesn't get that done anymore. Which fucking blows, because that shit was awesome.

 

I'm saying we had a two digit lead, and when the lead slipped through Chris Gamble's idiot hands, we opened it up and had some of our longest drives of the season.

We had a 17-3 lead until 0:04 in the half, just because now I feel like I have to quantify it. After giving up almost that entire lead between Q2 :04 and Q3 13:14, all one minute and fifty seconds of it, we threw the ball 25 times in the second half remaining.

And when we started throwing the ball, that 9:47 drive was as good as any I remember this season.



So.
Am I saying I'm happy with a QB 5 TD and 15 turnovers? No. Do I want him here next year? No. I realize you need to hear these things so you won't try to arbitrarily negate the rest, so I'm saying them.

Am I saying the team was conservative, instead of handcuffing? yes. Hopefully that's clear enough.

 

My issue with that really does remain. It doesn't matter as much now that, instead of beating the fuck out of one bigtime back that's on his last legs, we have two whose legs are fresh.

I think I also like that instead of pretending we're a run team when we want to peter with the odds of a third and more than four, we're a run team. That makes a difference to me, I guess. Call it what you will, 07-09 has been much more dedicated to really running the ball. Thank God, because the 04, 05, 06 type years would fail.

I agree the magic's gone. Last year was kinda nuts - he could still put it where he wanted to.